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Launch HN: Outerport (YC S24) – Instant hot-swapping for AI model weights

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Launch HN: Outerport (YC S24) – Instant hot-swapping for AI model weights

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Hi HN! We’re Towaki and Allen, and we’re building Outerport (https://outerport.com), a distribution network for AI model weights that enables ‘hot-swapping’ of AI models to save on GPU costs.

‘Hot-swapping’ lets you serve different models on the same GPU machine with only ~2 second swap times (~150x faster than baseline). You can see this in action through a live demo where you try the same prompts on different open source large language models at https://hotswap.outerport.com and see the docs here https://docs.outerport.com.

Running AI models on the cloud is expensive. Outerport came from our own experience working on AI services ourselves and struggling with the cost.

Cloud GPUs are charged by the amount of time used. A long start-up time (from loading models into GPU memory) means that to serve requests quickly, we need to acquire extra GPUs with models pre-loaded for spare capacity (i.e. ‘overprovision’). The time spent on loading models also adds to the cost. Both lead to inefficient use of expensive hardware.

The long start-up times are caused by how massive modern AI models are, particularly large language models. These models are often several gigabytes to terabytes in size. Their sizes continue to grow as models evolve, exacerbating the issue.

GPU capacity also needs to adapt dynamically according to demand, further complicating the issue. Starting up a new machine with another GPU is time consuming, and sending a large model there is also time consuming.

Traditional container-based solutions and orchestration systems (like Docker, Kubernetes) are not optimized for these large, storage-intensive AI models, as they are designed for smaller, more numerous containerized applications (which are usually 50MB to 1GB in size). There needs to be a solution that is designed specifically for model weights (floating point arrays) running on GPUs, to take advantage of things like layer sharing, caching and compression.

We made Outerport, a specialized system to manage and deploy AI models, as a solution to these problems and to help save GPU costs.

Outerport is a caching system for model weights, allowing read-only models to be cached in pinned RAM for fast loading into GPU. Outerport is also hierarchical, maintaining a cache across S3 to local SSD to RAM to GPU memory, optimizing for reduced data transfer costs and load balancing.

Within Outerport, models are managed by a dedicated daemon process which handles transfer to GPU, loading models from registry, and orchestrates the ‘hot swapping’ of multiple models on one machine.

‘Hot-swapping’ lets you provision a single GPU machine to be ‘multi-tenant’, such that multiple services with different models can run on the same machine. For example, this can facilitate A/B testing of two different models or having a text generation & image generation endpoint on the same machine.

We have been busy running simulations to determine the cost reductions we can get from leveraging this multi-model service scheme instead of multiple single-model services. Our initial simulation results show that we can achieve a 40% reduction in GPU running time costs. This improvement can be attributed to the multi-model service’s ability to smoothen out peaks of traffic, enabling more effective horizontal scaling. Overall, less time is wasted on acquiring additional machines and model loading, significantly saving costs. Our hypothesis is that the cost savings are substantial enough to make a viable business while still saving customers significant amounts of money.

We think that there are lots of exciting directions to take from here—from more sophisticated compression algorithms to providing a central platform for model management and governance. Towaki worked on ML systems and model compression at NVIDIA, and Allen used to do research in operations research, which is also why we’re so excited about this problem as something that combines both.

We’re super excited to share Outerport with you all. We’re also intending to release as much as possible of this in an open core model when we’re ready. We would love to know what you think—and experiences you have in working on this, related problems, or any other ideas you might have on this problem!

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This is very cool! Most of the work I've seen on reducing inference costs has been via things like LoRAX that lets multiple fine-tunes share the same underlying base model.

Do you imagine Outerport being a better fit for OSS model hosts like Replicate, Anyscale, etc. or for companies that are trying to host multiple models themselves?

Your use case mentioned speaks more to the latter, but it seems like the value at scale is with model hosting as a service companies.

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This is very cool! Most of the work I've seen on reducing inference costs has been via things like LoRAX that lets multiple fine-tunes share the same underlying base model. Do you imagine Outerport being a better fit for OSS model hosts like Replicate, Anyscale, etc. or for companies that are trying to host multiple models themselves? Your use case mentioned speaks more to the latter, but it seems like the value at s…

Thanks!

I think both are fits- we've gotten interest from both types of companies and our first customer is a "OSS model host".

Our 40% savings result is also specifically for the 5 model services case, so there could be non-trivial cost reduction even with a reasonably small number of models.

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> Outerport is a caching system for model weights, allowing read-only models to be cached in pinned RAM for fast loading into GPU. Outerport is also hierarchical, maintaining a cache across S3 to local SSD to RAM to GPU memory, optimizing for reduced data transfer costs and load balancing.

This is really cool. Are the costs to run this mainly storage or how much compute is actually tied up in it?

The time/cost to download models on a gpu cloud instance really add up when you are paying per second.

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> Outerport is a caching system for model weights, allowing read-only models to be cached in pinned RAM for fast loading into GPU. Outerport is also hierarchical, maintaining a cache across S3 to local SSD to RAM to GPU memory, optimizing for reduced data transfer costs and load balancing. This is really cool. Are the costs to run this mainly storage or how much compute is actually tied up in it? The time/cost to dow…

Thanks! If you mean the costs for users of Outerport, it'll be a subscription model for our hosted registry (with a limit on storage / S3 egress) and a license model for self-hosting the registry. So mainly storage, since the idea is to also minimize egress costs which are associated with the compute tied up in it!

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post #2

This is very cool! Most of the work I've seen on reducing inference costs has been via things like LoRAX that lets multiple fine-tunes share the same underlying base model. Do you imagine Outerport being a better fit for OSS model hosts like Replicate, Anyscale, etc. or for companies that are trying to host multiple models themselves? Your use case mentioned speaks more to the latter, but it seems like the value at s…

Thanks! I think both are fits- we've gotten interest from both types of companies and our first customer is a "OSS model host". Our 40% savings result is also specifically for the 5 model services case, so there could be non-trivial cost reduction even with a reasonably small number of models.

Could you craft a model-weight as a preamble to a prompt? So you can submit prompts through a layer which will pre-warm the model weights for you based on the prompt - Taking the output into some next step in your workflow, apply a new weight preamble depending on what the next phase is?

Like, for a particular portion of the workflow - assume some crawler of weird Insurance Claims data of scale - and you want particular weights for the aspects of certain logic that youre running to search for fraud.

Re: Launch HN: Outerport (YC S24) – Instant hot-swapping for AI model weights

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Do all variations of the model need to have the same architecture? Or can they be different types of models with different number of layers, etc?

Variants do not have to be the same architecture- the demo (https://hotswap.outerport.com/) runs on a couple of different open source architectures.

That being said, there is some smart caching / hashing on layers such that if you do have models that are similar (i.e. a fine-tuned model where only some layers are fine-tuned), it'll minimize storage and transfer by reusing those weights.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! I think both are fits- we've gotten interest from both types of companies and our first customer is a "OSS model host". Our 40% savings result is also specifically for the 5 model services case, so there could be non-trivial cost reduction even with a reasonably small number of models.

Could you craft a model-weight as a preamble to a prompt? So you can submit prompts through a layer which will pre-warm the model weights for you based on the prompt - Taking the output into some next step in your workflow, apply a new weight preamble depending on what the next phase is? Like, for a particular portion of the workflow - assume some crawler of weird Insurance Claims data of scale - and you want particu…

That's a super neat idea- we should in fact be able to use this same system to support the orchestration of a 'system prompt caching' sort of thing (across deployments). I'll put this on my 'things to hack on' list :)

Re: Launch HN: Outerport (YC S24) – Instant hot-swapping for AI model weights

#10
This seems useful but honestly I think you guys are better off getting IP protection and licensing out the technology. This is a classic "feature not a product" and I don't see you competing against google/microsoft/huggingface in the model management space.
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