New anti-speeding system coming to Australia is dangerous
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New anti-speeding system coming to Australia is dangerous
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#3From the article: "To put it simply, the system is dangerous."
And then it proceeds to spend zero time at all describing exactly what is dangerous about it. Seriously, the article doesn't even hypothesize about what makes this dangerous, it just says that it's bad.
The car I drove about 10 years ago had trouble exceeding the speed limit at times because it was a diesel! It was never dangerous.
Trucks including rental trucks are already governed to very low speeds and they don't cause a problem.
Articles like this feel to me a little bit like the seat belt deniers of the past. They'll all have to sheepishly eat their words when passenger and pedestrian deaths go down after the program is implemented.
Cars aren't toys. They are transportation devices. They kill people. They really aren't about freedom or whatever, not when I'm trying not to get killed by a maniac.
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#4Once it goes beyond alerting, this is going to kill someone.
A driver will be on a 2-lane road (1 lane each way), and attempt to pass the driver in front of them. A car will be coming the other way, and they won't be able to get in front in time.
They'll try to slow and get back in, but the other cars will have filled the space. They'll have nowhere to go.
Perhaps in this example the driver shouldn't have tried to pass in the first place, but removing an "out" from this situation, in which everyone gets to go home to their families, is a horrible idea.
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#5Drove a rented Kia in Central Australia recently that had this. It was fine: just stick below the speed limit. "Dangerous" to someone who continuously rides the speed limit perhaps.
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#6An overly sensitive speed alert system that triggers warnings for even 1 km/h over the limit is a misguided approach to road safety. It fails to account for minor fluctuations in speed that naturally occur during normal driving, potentially causing more distraction and stress than it prevents. This system could lead to drivers constantly focusing on their speedometer rather than the road, ironically decreasing overall safety. Additionally, it ignores the context-dependent nature of safe driving speeds and the small margins of error in both vehicle speedometers and speed limit postings. Ultimately, such a system risks creating overly anxious drivers and diminishing respect for speed limits, rather than promoting genuinely safer driving practices.
This will either be ignored after the first week, or more likely, removed via the aftermarket.
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#7Once it goes beyond alerting, this is going to kill someone. A driver will be on a 2-lane road (1 lane each way), and attempt to pass the driver in front of them. A car will be coming the other way, and they won't be able to get in front in time. They'll try to slow and get back in, but the other cars will have filled the space. They'll have nowhere to go. Perhaps in this example the driver shouldn't have tried to pa…
This scenario is terribly specified. If you don't have clear time to pass a car in front of you without going an absurd amount over the posted speed limit, you almost certainly are putting yourself in danger already? I'll go further and say that people that take excess speeds in this scenario are already causing more accidents today, than a limiter would cause in the future.
Edit: I should say I think it would be a bad idea to have the car force you to go slower than 1km over a limit. Having it visually alert that you are speeding, though, seems far more reasonable.
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#8Once it goes beyond alerting, this is going to kill someone. A driver will be on a 2-lane road (1 lane each way), and attempt to pass the driver in front of them. A car will be coming the other way, and they won't be able to get in front in time. They'll try to slow and get back in, but the other cars will have filled the space. They'll have nowhere to go. Perhaps in this example the driver shouldn't have tried to pa…
This scenario is terribly specified. If you don't have clear time to pass a car in front of you without going an absurd amount over the posted speed limit, you almost certainly are putting yourself in danger already? I'll go further and say that people that take excess speeds in this scenario are already causing more accidents today, than a limiter would cause in the future. Edit: I should say I think it would be a b…
You're also going to be aware of this system when you attempt to pass another car. It isn't going to be installed in your car mid pass.
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#9We have many studies that show speeding is dangerous. Sounds like this system is very effective at discouraging speeding. Until I see studies showing more people are dying on road because of this system than because of speeding, sounds like it’s working as intended.
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#10One place this would definitely be dangerous is in my city in the US. There's an interstate highway with a posted limit of 55mph, but everyone does 70mph+ (there is no police enforcement, because it's too dangerous---pulling people over here causes more accidents due to rubbernecking and traffic). If you were to actually go the speed limit, you'd be constantly passed (on both sides) by aggressive drivers and cause unnecessary lane switching behind you.