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Re: Midjourney web experience is now open to everyone

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This is a interesting company to watch in the Gen AI space since they don't have all the same restrictions as the bigger companies. Crazy this took them so long, and also crazy that they got so far through a very confusing Discord experience.

What do you mean by no restrictions? My account was flagged and under review after using two bold prompts.

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Yes, unfortunately. That’s a no-go for me.

I feel like this is an old man yells at cloud moment but I refuse to link social media or google accounts with other services. Why should Google's or Discord's policy dictate my participation in the web?

They probably don’t want to deal with email registration workflows and want to limit themselves to OAuth, but that’s not user/customer-friendly.

Re: Midjourney web experience is now open to everyone

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This is a interesting company to watch in the Gen AI space since they don't have all the same restrictions as the bigger companies. Crazy this took them so long, and also crazy that they got so far through a very confusing Discord experience.

Using discord is a great way to focus on what's important and get not great, but good enough ux and community tools basically for free.

That and you get user observability for free, and support injection in a way that to this day there’s no good way to do in an “app” experience.

Presuming your bot requires people to interact with it in public channels, your CSRs can then just sit in those channels watching people using the bot, and step in if they’re struggling. It’s a far more impactful way to leverage support staff than sticking a support interface on your website and hoping people will reach out through it.

It’s actually akin to the benefit of a physically-situated product demo experience, e.g. the product tables at an Apple Store.

And, also like an Apple Store, customers can also watch what one-another are doing/attempting, and so can both learn from one another, and act as informal support for one-another.

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Yes, unfortunately. That’s a no-go for me.

I feel like this is an old man yells at cloud moment but I refuse to link social media or google accounts with other services. Why should Google's or Discord's policy dictate my participation in the web?

Because the alternative is pretty provably worse for you, and for them.

* You have to save your (hopefully unique!) email/password in a password manager which is effectively contradictory to your "I won't use a cloud service" argument.

* The company needs to build out a whole email/password authentication flow, including forgetting your password, resetting your password, hints, rate limiting, etc etc, all things that Google/Apple have entire dedicated engineering teams tackling; alternatively, there are solid drop-in OAuth libraries for every major language out there.

* Most people do not want to manage passwords and so take the absolute lazy route of reusing their passwords across all kinds of services. This winds up with breached accounts because Joe Smith decided to use his LinkedIn email/password on Midjourney.

* People have multiple email addresses and as a result wind up forgetting which email address/password they used for a given site.

Auth is the number one customer service problem on almost any service out there. When you look at the sheer number of tickets, auth failures and handholding always dominate time spent helping customers, and it isn't close. If Midjourney alienates 1 potential customer out of 100, but the other 99 have an easier sign-in experience and don't have to worry about any of the above, that is an absolute win.

Re: Midjourney web experience is now open to everyone

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This is a interesting company to watch in the Gen AI space since they don't have all the same restrictions as the bigger companies. Crazy this took them so long, and also crazy that they got so far through a very confusing Discord experience.

what do you mean they don't have restrictions?

Re: Midjourney web experience is now open to everyone

#36

This is a interesting company to watch in the Gen AI space since they don't have all the same restrictions as the bigger companies. Crazy this took them so long, and also crazy that they got so far through a very confusing Discord experience.

Try creating something mocking Xi Jinping.

Re: Midjourney web experience is now open to everyone

#37

This is a interesting company to watch in the Gen AI space since they don't have all the same restrictions as the bigger companies. Crazy this took them so long, and also crazy that they got so far through a very confusing Discord experience.

what do you mean they don't have restrictions?

Google, Facebook, Microsoft etc all have to shoehorn these things into their products to stay on top, but it's not their core business and they don't want it to take away from their ads or licenses they sell. Midjourney as a company is much freer to innovate without the burden of the restrictions of an established company.

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#38
Ideogram 2.0 was also released today, and it's nerfed (anatomy is lot worse than 1.0 now) just like StableDiffusion versions after 1.5 which is very disappointing.

Well good thing we have Flux out in the open now, both midjourney releasing web version or ideogram releasing there 2.0 on the same day after 2 weeks of flux won't redeem them as much. Flux Dev is amazing, check what SD community is doing with it on https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/ . It can do fine tuning, there are Loras now, even control net. It can gen casual photos like no other tool out there, you won't be able to tell they are AI without looking way too deep.

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Flux, latest Midjourney, or even dall-e... I'm still disappointed that 3 of my sci-fi prompts never works (interior of an O'Neill Cylinder, Space elevator, rotating space station). I hope someone makes lora of those one day.

What prompts are you using for the space station? I think it pretty much nails it after some prompt tweaking. First attempt: https://cdn.midjourney.com/686f364f-188f-4065-813f-b45d21972... Tweaking to specify spokes around the central axis: https://cdn.midjourney.com/d18d3ad3-3fd0-461e-a3a8-5fc46f0ba...

Ah thanks, seems it got better at this one then ! I've tried the 2 other prompts with the latest but the space station I had only tried in v5.

Re: Midjourney web experience is now open to everyone

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Haven't used Midjourney since Flux dropped

where can we try/use? Is it just the obvious google result of https://getimg.ai/models/flux ?

Replicate, although not fully free, has the bonus of outputs from Flux (from their endpoints only) able to be used for commercial purposes whereas that is normally only applicable for Flux schnell:

https://replicate.com/black-forest-labs/flux-dev

https://replicate.com/black-forest-labs/flux-schnell

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