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Re: Zen, a Arc-like open-source browser based on the Firefox engine

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> A trusted third party And why wouldn't it be Nielsen :) I remember when they sent me cash in the mail as a kid, fun times.

They still do that. Just a few weeks ago my daughter filled out their survey and got $5!

That's so cool, mine was about 30 years ago. I had no idea they were still doing this!

Re: Zen, a Arc-like open-source browser based on the Firefox engine

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Remember what happened to Thunderbird, though. Mozilla dropped it, and it got better. There are good reasons to think that Mozilla - the corporate entity - is cancer.

Isn’t thunderbird still part of Mozilla? It says it still is on their site.

> Thunderbird operates in a for-profit subsidiary of the non-profit Mozilla Foundation.

I guess the answer is yes.

Re: Zen, a Arc-like open-source browser based on the Firefox engine

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I've been wanting split view in FF for a long time, so I'm going to try this right now And I know somebody, somewhere, is going to argue that it should be the job of the desktop. I disagree. I don't want to have to create each context I want things to exist in, and manipulate that carefully. I like automatic context. That's why I like tabs in my browser and not a thousand windows. And that's why I enjoy my split view…

Mozilla maintains a Firefox extension that does split view in the browser. Its called Side View. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/side-view/

That's a sidebar, they're not the same. It requires hacks to change the dimensions to a true split, and the things like zoom and extensions don't work the same in it. This is a half-measure at best.

Re: Zen, a Arc-like open-source browser based on the Firefox engine

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I've been wanting split view in FF for a long time, so I'm going to try this right now And I know somebody, somewhere, is going to argue that it should be the job of the desktop. I disagree. I don't want to have to create each context I want things to exist in, and manipulate that carefully. I like automatic context. That's why I like tabs in my browser and not a thousand windows. And that's why I enjoy my split view…

Mozilla maintains a Firefox extension that does split view in the browser. Its called Side View. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/side-view/

I've tried it. It's not nearly half as good as Edge's split screen feature.

Re: Zen, a Arc-like open-source browser based on the Firefox engine

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“Zen Browser.app” is damaged and can’t be opened. You should eject the disk image. Current MacOS on M2

cd /Applications && xattr -d com.apple.provenance "Zen Browser.app"/ && xattr -d com.apple.quarantine "Zen Browser.app"/

Re: Zen, a Arc-like open-source browser based on the Firefox engine

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Agreed. I work at Mozilla as an engineer for Firefox, and I'm generally happy to see this. I currently work on tab groups, and I'm curious to see what their implementation will look like or whether they'll try to fast-track our work-in-progress once that's somewhat viable. For the sidebar and vertical tabs, they seem to have implemented their own thing rather than using what our team has been working on. At a first g…

Firefox is the only browser that freezes Ubuntu after some extensive internet use, especially with video watching. Since many years and still today.

I've never used Ubuntu, but on Fedora and openSUSE Tumbleweed, I've never run into this issue (and I've had like 50+ tabs open for weeks since i don't really reboot my work laptop unless I have to)

Re: Zen, a Arc-like open-source browser based on the Firefox engine

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Tab groups again? I don’t remember when exactly, but like 10 years ago Firefox already had this feature. I was using them happily, organising all my numerous tabs to a dozen of groups by theme (work, social, movies, etc). But then Mozilla decided: “Nobody is using tab groups, screw it!” and removed them. All groups and tabs were lost. Now history will repeat?

I think you're referring to Panorama View [1], introduced in Firefox 4 (2010). I think there are still extensions that replicate the experience [2]. There are many things different now that might make it work better this time. If not just that it's 14 years later, different UI, and the pattern being familiar from other browsers, might make a difference too. But no guarantees, of course. (Note: I don't work on Tab Gro…

Panorama from Firefox 4. Also called Tab Groups.
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