Hopefully we'll get some rise in use of image provenance: > The Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity (C2PA) addresses the prevalence of misleading information online through the development of technical standards for certifying the source and history (or provenance) of media content. C2PA is a Joint Development Foundation project, formed through an alliance between Adobe, Arm, Intel, Microsoft and Truepi…
The AI photo editing era is here, and it's every person for themselves
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Re: The AI photo editing era is here, and it's every person for themselves
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Okay, but shouldn't you be able to edit the background of a photo that has a person with a bikini in it? Why couldn't they just disallow you to edit the actual human body or the clothing?
Law of unintended consequences. Better to be safe than have to make sure your tool can't be inadvertently used as a blackmail generator. Consider the example given. A person in a bikini at the beach is a normal image that few find objectionable. Let's make it objectionable by only modifying the background. We modify the bikini picture's background to make the person appear in a strip club on the stage. Or we make the…
edit local businessman/politician into picture with Jeffrey Epstein.
No nudity involved.
Re: The AI photo editing era is here, and it's every person for themselves
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Okay, but shouldn't you be able to edit the background of a photo that has a person with a bikini in it? Why couldn't they just disallow you to edit the actual human body or the clothing?
Law of unintended consequences. Better to be safe than have to make sure your tool can't be inadvertently used as a blackmail generator. Consider the example given. A person in a bikini at the beach is a normal image that few find objectionable. Let's make it objectionable by only modifying the background. We modify the bikini picture's background to make the person appear in a strip club on the stage. Or we make the…
In the meantime, every predator/abuser on earth is sticking an airtag in some ex's car or purse, and everybody is OK with it.
I agree with the parent.
Why not make the tools capable of everything and just punish bad behavior instead of preemptively censoring users and their usage of the tool?
Re: The AI photo editing era is here, and it's every person for themselves
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Law of unintended consequences. Better to be safe than have to make sure your tool can't be inadvertently used as a blackmail generator. Consider the example given. A person in a bikini at the beach is a normal image that few find objectionable. Let's make it objectionable by only modifying the background. We modify the bikini picture's background to make the person appear in a strip club on the stage. Or we make the…
> Law of unintended consequences. In the meantime, every predator/abuser on earth is sticking an airtag in some ex's car or purse, and everybody is OK with it. I agree with the parent. Why not make the tools capable of everything and just punish bad behavior instead of preemptively censoring users and their usage of the tool?
No they're not, which is why Apple and Google got forced to implement "stalking detectors" as an addon to the operating systems and stuff like regular beeping for the tags.
> Why not make the tools capable of everything and just punish bad behavior instead of preemptively censoring users and their usage of the tool?
Law of numbers. Basically, to pull off a convincing nudifier or whatever you needed to be really good at Photoshop, and the tool itself had associated costs (for buying it or learning how to pirate it), which kept the number of fake nudity photos very low. But now, with AI services doing it for a few bucks, or apps/training weights being released that allow everyone with a reasonably recent NVIDIA GPU to pull it off on their own? The numbers of such abuse exploded, because the cost went down drastically.
Re: The AI photo editing era is here, and it's every person for themselves
#35As someone who's role involves some elements of image editing, Adobe's GenAI feature is a welcome tool... however, as someone who's read 1984 and is concerned about the future tidal wave of scams, I'm not so keen on ever a$$hole and his/her dog being enabled.
I love Adobe's GenAI, but I also hate it. The problem is it has been programmed with some pseudo Judeo-Christian moral guidelines. Trying to edit my gf's beach pics to remove crap from the background, it freaks out on some bikini pics and pops-up with an angry yellow box, basically lecturing you on your life choices for not covering your entire skin with clothing. You have to chop the image into new documents, fix ea…
Re: The AI photo editing era is here, and it's every person for themselves
#36As if people didn't photoshop the hell out of photos before. This "era" began 20 years ago. Look at instagram, for the last decade these techniques were applied without ai.
Re: The AI photo editing era is here, and it's every person for themselves
#37As someone who's role involves some elements of image editing, Adobe's GenAI feature is a welcome tool... however, as someone who's read 1984 and is concerned about the future tidal wave of scams, I'm not so keen on ever a$$hole and his/her dog being enabled.
I love Adobe's GenAI, but I also hate it. The problem is it has been programmed with some pseudo Judeo-Christian moral guidelines. Trying to edit my gf's beach pics to remove crap from the background, it freaks out on some bikini pics and pops-up with an angry yellow box, basically lecturing you on your life choices for not covering your entire skin with clothing. You have to chop the image into new documents, fix ea…
Re: The AI photo editing era is here, and it's every person for themselves
#38Hopefully we'll get some rise in use of image provenance: > The Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity (C2PA) addresses the prevalence of misleading information online through the development of technical standards for certifying the source and history (or provenance) of media content. C2PA is a Joint Development Foundation project, formed through an alliance between Adobe, Arm, Intel, Microsoft and Truepi…
That’s called DRM
It's called digital signatures:
> The C2PA metadata for this information can include, among other things, the publisher of the information, the device used to record the information, the location and time of the recording or editing steps that altered the information. To make sure that the C2PA metadata can not be changed unnoticed, it is secured with hashcodes and certified digital signatures. The same applies to main content of the information, such as a picture or a text. A hash code of that data is stored in the C2PA metadata section and then, as part of that metadata, secured with the digital signature.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_Authenticity_Initiativ...