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Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet

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Re: Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet

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Post by jongalloway2 »

prezjordan wrote: post #362
tempuser007 wrote: post #292

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I just clicked again on a small project just to see the load time. I'm not bullsh*ting but it was up and ready in ~3 seconds.Quadcore 2.5Ghz on some 3 years old Asus MB with 4Gb RAM and a brand new SSD (Crucial m4 i can recommend).

Alright fine I believe you. I can't pinpoint why I have such an issue with VS. I mean, I don't have much use for it since I'm a(n) RoR developer, but I don't really know why I hate it so much. Freshman year of high school I took my first CS class in Visual Basic and I really liked it. I said "I" 9 times. Sorry.

Try running Visual Studio in safe mode to see if it's an extension / add-in that's causing issues: devenv /safemode

Some other tips here.

Like everyone else replying, Visual Studio 2010 launches in under 10 seconds for me; Visual Studio 2012 RC even faster.

Re: Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet

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Post by clarky07 »

bane wrote: post #321
Bud wrote: post #243

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"Screwing around with iTunes"? You've either both not worked in any large companies lately AND never really used an iPad, or you are just blinded by platform bias. The fact is that iPads are being massively adopted in Fortune 500 companies. And I can assure you that those users are not "screwing around with iTunes". In fact, iTunes doesn't even exist on the iPad, so you don't really know what you are talking about, a…

That's amazing because of the 11 Fortune 100 companies I've personally done work with in the last few years (and 2 more in that size range that aren't publicly traded), I don't recall seeing a single iPad. I mean, I didn't work with Apple or Google, so I can guess you'd see them there. Neither bank allowed them on-site, and none of the defense contractors would even entertain the idea. You can also probably rule out…

it seems clear you are mostly talking about defense contractors. I've been there. Can't take a phone with a camera either. Not really a representative sample is it? Also can't have thumb drives. Probably no fortune 500 companies have ever used one of those either.

Re: Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet

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Post by masklinn »

stcredzero wrote: post #437
sjwright wrote: post #429

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> Once Apple can get iOS working well on x86 I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that iOS already works well on x86 and has never not worked well on x86. After all, the core OS maintains ongoing heritage with an x86 OS, and every single app in the store has already been successfully compiled for x86...

Every app that has been run in the "simulator" has been compiled on x86. The simulator is not one. It's really a cross-compiling trick.

> The simulator is not one. It's really a cross-compiling trick.

Uh? No, that's the exact opposite, the simulator is exactly a simulator. What it's not is an emulator: it does not emulate an ARM device, it simulates an iPhone by running iOS/x86.

Re: Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet

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Post by niels_olson »

uvTwitch wrote: post #320
adriand wrote: post #256

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You're right. Where Apple tends to emphasize family, connectedness, ease of use, utility, and general happiness, Microsoft has chosen to emphasize technology in a harsh, dominant manner that reminds me of the Borg.

Microsoft's traditional core market has been the enterprise, to which Borg Marketing is perfectly suited.

There are books worth of insight behind your comment. Why, IT, why u no let us have beauty in our work?

Re: Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet

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Post by danmaz74 »

jcitme wrote: post #379
heyitsnick wrote: post #134

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It strikes me as an entirely natural development and something that will appeal to many consumers. I get the feeling Apple have always wanted iPad to be an extra - an extension to the desktop experience. But the divisions between phone, tablet, "ultralight laptop" and "main laptop" are arbitrary and increasingly opaque. Many people are starting to see tablets and real possible replacements: for light users, it handle…

I do wonder a bit, how will this blurring of the laptop/tablet line affect their cash cow, Microsoft Office? The business world is trained to believe: they NEED office, and office == productivity. The iPad, long without these apps, challenged this ideal. How would the tablet world spilling into the laptop world affect Office sales...

From the "About" section: Create, collaborate, and get stuff done with Office

Re: Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet

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Post by kamaal »

sjwright wrote: post #426
technoslut wrote: post #392

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I've always thought Apple was pretty clear in the direction they were headed when Jobs made his car and trucks analogy at All Things D. The iPad is meant for the 90% of current users as their main device. The PC is for the heavy lifting for those in fields such as audio, video and science. There may be a time where a tablet can meet these needs but I certainly don't think we're close yet.

> I certainly don't think we're close yet Perhaps not for the Hacker News audience. I'd assert that an iPad -- perhaps with a bluetooth keyboard -- is already enough computer for 70% of western world.

If computing history has shown as anything, nothing really is 'enough' for any part of the world.

Re: Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet

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Post by jpxxx »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #269
Bud wrote: post #243

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"Screwing around with iTunes"? You've either both not worked in any large companies lately AND never really used an iPad, or you are just blinded by platform bias. The fact is that iPads are being massively adopted in Fortune 500 companies. And I can assure you that those users are not "screwing around with iTunes". In fact, iTunes doesn't even exist on the iPad, so you don't really know what you are talking about, a…

There are iTunes and App store apps on my iOS devices which can't be removed.

No worries.

Launch the Apple Configurator app.

[+] Profiles -> Create new Profile...

Restrictions -> Configure button

Uncheck [Allow Installing Apps] Uncheck [Allow Use of iTunes Store]

Save, Prepare, done. Nasty icons gone.

Re: Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet

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Post by jpxxx »

Shit website, shit marketing, and shit video aside, I'm seriously intrigued.

Microsoft has five cards to play here:

- REAL Windows (TM) and Massive Microsoft Developer Mindshare - Ports, ports, ports! - REAL Microsoft Office (TM) INCLUDED FREE on the low-end model - PEN AND KEYBOARD! - Billions of dollars in cash to burn making this happen

And they have three huge challenges in front of them:

- Windows 8 critical reception - Their ability to execute - They will be shipping these, at best, about two months before iPad 4 ships

Execution is going to be everything. Make this a work-friendly wonderbox that effortlessly supports Exchange, remote management, SharePoint, SkyDrive, SMB, OneNote, and Communicator/Lync? The iPad will blow off conference tables like crepe paper.

Make a fussy little piece of shit that takes the same amount of work to set up as a laptop or otherwise scares off IT? Doom.

Re: Microsoft Introduces New "Surface" Tablet

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Post by runako »

stcredzero wrote: post #433
runako wrote: post #430

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That's what RIM thought. It's not clear that there's a "business tablet" market separate from the "consumer tablet" market. Similarly, there was at one point a vibrant "business mobile phone" market as distinct from the "consumer mobile phone" market. That distinction has been erased, killing RIM in the process. The jury is out as to whether there will be a viable business tablet market. My money says no, that at a s…

Execution is the thing.

I think we agree on that.

But this is also, of course, why I posted about the site crashing during the launch in the first place.

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