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Are there any positive uses of our online data beyond targeted advertising?

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Re: Are there any positive uses of our online data beyond targeted advertising?

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No. Facebook and Google are ad businesses. The data only exists to influence people into buying things they don’t need. It’s a net negative to society.

I don’t know how anyone justifies working at either place, given their mission is to separate people from their money.

Re: Are there any positive uses of our online data beyond targeted advertising?

#12

No. Facebook and Google are ad businesses. The data only exists to influence people into buying things they don’t need. It’s a net negative to society. I don’t know how anyone justifies working at either place, given their mission is to separate people from their money.

Separate people from their money while stealing their attention and time, intentionally triggering and maintaining addiction response, optimizing for engagement which in turn relies on negative emotions, conflict, fear, hate.

Attention x time is the most significant resource we have.

Joy, togetherness, happiness, is what makes life worth living.

The attention economy destroys all of these, causing an immeasurable amount of damage and misery.

So, yes, how much does Sauron pay again?

Re: Are there any positive uses of our online data beyond targeted advertising?

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I’d love Facebook and LinkedIn for relevant event recommendations if they didn’t regularly come well after the event occurred or the deadline to apply/buy tickets had passed.

Yes I agree. An issue I have is hearing about a future event that has now sold out of tickets because when I heard about it so did everyone else. It's a catch-22. Are you suggesting your online data could predict which events you might like before they sell out / actually happen?

It already predicts which events I might like. It just fails to get them to me in time for me to attend them.

Re: Are there any positive uses of our online data beyond targeted advertising?

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This is actually a very good question! made me think for a while now!. In my opinion a great use of our data would definatly benefit us while making a desiction now of course this isnt so realistic but hear me out! an AI that is always listening and records every step that you make online. and then uses its super advanced model to help you make descisions you ask it to make. like what should i but who should i date o…

Interesting ideas. So you're learning more towards the recommendations (and eventually agent) use-case. I find having to provide ChatGPT / Claude with context before prompting to be a real inefficiency and them having access to your online history would streamline this more.

Oh yhea indeed, It's super anoying to tell the AI every damn time that I don't want it to write me python code for every example !

Re: Are there any positive uses of our online data beyond targeted advertising?

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No. Facebook and Google are ad businesses. The data only exists to influence people into buying things they don’t need. It’s a net negative to society. I don’t know how anyone justifies working at either place, given their mission is to separate people from their money.

Sadly, it's full of places people work at that are net negatives to society.

Google and Facebook are two such places, but the list is long, and not limited to Big Tech.

Re: Are there any positive uses of our online data beyond targeted advertising?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting ideas. So you're learning more towards the recommendations (and eventually agent) use-case. I find having to provide ChatGPT / Claude with context before prompting to be a real inefficiency and them having access to your online history would streamline this more.

Oh yhea indeed, It's super anoying to tell the AI every damn time that I don't want it to write me python code for every example !

"Customize GPT" -> "Custom Instructions" lets you do this; tell it your preferred language assuming you want code examples.

Re: Are there any positive uses of our online data beyond targeted advertising?

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Yes, in theory. Tracking someone's health can help doctors diagnose issues. If you search for "nosebleed" and then "back pain", that can provide valuable information, particularly if you might forget to mention symptoms. Tracking what you search for and click on could be used to suggest news stories you'd be interested in, and not just funnel you towards sensationalism. Et cetera. However, good uses are pretty niche, and certainly not what most data is used for.

Re: Are there any positive uses of our online data beyond targeted advertising?

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Yes, in theory. Tracking someone's health can help doctors diagnose issues. If you search for "nosebleed" and then "back pain", that can provide valuable information, particularly if you might forget to mention symptoms. Tracking what you search for and click on could be used to suggest news stories you'd be interested in, and not just funnel you towards sensationalism. Et cetera. However, good uses are pretty niche,…

Some nice ideas. I think recommendations (health, products, news etc.) would be really useful. But you're right, none are as big a market as ads.

Re: Are there any positive uses of our online data beyond targeted advertising?

#20

No. Facebook and Google are ad businesses. The data only exists to influence people into buying things they don’t need. It’s a net negative to society. I don’t know how anyone justifies working at either place, given their mission is to separate people from their money.

Not that I'm disagreeing with your first line, but is there any business that doesn't exist to separate people from their money?
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