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Re: Wow, check out this guy's comment

#11

A very nice story. I think, however, he overlooks the power of humanity in his story. It's not down to that $50 voucher. It's because he became a real person to the people he visited - a local guy, someone they'd seen in real life. It really seems all down to pressing the flesh. The other points don't make any logical sense, for example: All these years I was right, most people let money motivate them and that create…

If it were really about him giving them "money" ... and money creates poor decision making, then choosing him based on that offer is poor decision making.

Yes, but it is well-known that customers make illogical decisions. Recognising that a user interface that's strictly logical may, for illogical reasons, be less usable than one that panders to the user's "irrationality" is a good business decision. Basing your business decisions around the recognition that people make apparently random choices is a Good Thing(tm).

You say that the humanity has been overlooked, but choosing someone because you've looked them in the eye and pressed the flesh is less logical than choosing someone based on their references and an objective evaluation of their work.

Any business that overlooks the human factor, including customers' potentially irrational/illogical decision making processes, does so at its peril.

Re: Wow, check out this guy's comment

#12

A very nice story. I think, however, he overlooks the power of humanity in his story. It's not down to that $50 voucher. It's because he became a real person to the people he visited - a local guy, someone they'd seen in real life. It really seems all down to pressing the flesh. The other points don't make any logical sense, for example: All these years I was right, most people let money motivate them and that create…

Agreed, it's the "look them in the eye, shake their hand, and tell them you want to earn their business" part that really gets them.

The $50 voucher is the thing that gives the future customer "permission" to follow up on their gut feeling of "Wow, I like being treated like a HUMAN BEING."

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#14

my wife gave me a choice of getting a wal-mart type job or get out. Is it really this way in the US? As a foreigner I'm curious.

Maybe in some situations, but it would be a shitty situation as a walmart-type job does not provide enough income to live on. Some epithet towards the wife is probably appropriate.

Re: Wow, check out this guy's comment

#16
post #7

I hope to not be "that guy" but wasn't this plumber's ultimate motivation money? I mean he was out of it and needed it. He was willing to work at a loss(or lower profit) so he could get business. He innovated and won. If he had had customers immediately then is he suggesting that his motivation would've been the love of money? Given his track record of honesty I would guess not.

The reason this comment is so striking for HN is that most people here who would describe themselves as "motivated by money" don't foresee themselves having to do gruntwork such as door-to-door sales, giving the customer what will really appeal to them, to earn that money. They think that it will be easy and hassle-free, somehow.

It's like Puritan Work Ethic porn.

edit: Also, he passed over the easy money (e.g. violating his ethics/the law) which got him fired to begin with.

Re: Wow, check out this guy's comment

#17

That's an interesting anecdote about business practices, but I don't understand what it has to do with the pro/con virtue/evil desirability/undesirability of being motivated by money.

He was successful despite not selling out his principles and succumbing to the motivation of money.

Re: Wow, check out this guy's comment

#18
I really loved this post.

It brings out one of the obvious truths in economics or business if you will.

Customers are not that interested in paying you to help you out. They are interested in getting what they want. Money is just a reward for getting what they want.

Too many businesses focus on getting paid, they lose track of why customers are there in the first place.

Re: Wow, check out this guy's comment

#19
post #15

my wife gave me a choice of getting a wal-mart type job or get out. Is it really this way in the US? As a foreigner I'm curious.

Where are you from? I think it is like that for a lot of people in most of the world

"To have and to hold, from this day forward, for better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death us do part."

I'm from Russia. Don't know about y'all, I wouldn't want to marry someone with a different attitude.

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