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Re: The broligarchs are trying to have their way

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Post by Gud »

Llamamoe wrote: post #13
ArtTimeInvestor wrote: post #10

What I find most frightening is the trick Musk played on regular investors via his pay package that is now worth tens of billions. Multiple times more than what Tesla earns per year. No regular investor digs into this kind of company details. Nor do they understand the risk reward mechanics at play. And they shouldn't have to. If the stock market gets played with unusual contracts like this one, regular investors wil…

> If the stock market gets played with unusual contracts like this one, regular investors will be cheated out of the value that is created by replacing more and more jobs by AI. The only people in the world who deserve money even less than sociopathic billionaires are investors. I'd say cheating them out of their money should be free game. Isn't that basically what they're doing to every worker-class human being in t…

worker-class humans SHOULD BE investors too.

Re: The broligarchs are trying to have their way

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Post by pintxo »

peutetre wrote: post #20
ruok_throwaway wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one voted for them when they were campainging by themselves in 2020 - 0 delegates won. 2024 primaries were shut down - so no one voted them again. They wouldn't have won the primaries if the primaries were held. --- The fact that you mention they have been voted for because they were the second person on the ticket that won the presidential election is exactly what is wrong with the US. They only managed to win by…

The internal processes of a political party aren't that interesting. There is a presidential election coming up. That is the test that actually matters. Kamala Harris will either win it or she won't. If she wins then she was good enough to win. If she doesn't win then she wasn't good enough to win.

Minus the fact that the election logic can result in the overall more successful candidate to loose.

Because no one cared to adapt an over 200 year old rule to changes in transportation and communication technology over the last century.

Re: The broligarchs are trying to have their way

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Post by Gud »

peutetre wrote: post #20
ruok_throwaway wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one voted for them when they were campainging by themselves in 2020 - 0 delegates won. 2024 primaries were shut down - so no one voted them again. They wouldn't have won the primaries if the primaries were held. --- The fact that you mention they have been voted for because they were the second person on the ticket that won the presidential election is exactly what is wrong with the US. They only managed to win by…

The internal processes of a political party aren't that interesting. There is a presidential election coming up. That is the test that actually matters. Kamala Harris will either win it or she won't. If she wins then she was good enough to win. If she doesn't win then she wasn't good enough to win.

Obviously they are interesting. It's the preselection of what the general population can vote for.

If you can only vote for two different candidates(which is the case now, Kamala Harris and Donald Trump), how the f*k is that democratic? It's a sham.

Re: The broligarchs are trying to have their way

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Post by blitzar »

Llamamoe wrote: post #13
ArtTimeInvestor wrote: post #10

What I find most frightening is the trick Musk played on regular investors via his pay package that is now worth tens of billions. Multiple times more than what Tesla earns per year. No regular investor digs into this kind of company details. Nor do they understand the risk reward mechanics at play. And they shouldn't have to. If the stock market gets played with unusual contracts like this one, regular investors wil…

> If the stock market gets played with unusual contracts like this one, regular investors will be cheated out of the value that is created by replacing more and more jobs by AI. The only people in the world who deserve money even less than sociopathic billionaires are investors. I'd say cheating them out of their money should be free game. Isn't that basically what they're doing to every worker-class human being in t…

you are not less worthy than sociopaths

Re: The broligarchs are trying to have their way

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Post by orwin »

walkabilitee wrote: post #3

Not a fan of how "bro" is now a slur for, "non-obese male who holds opinions with which I disagree"

'non-obese' when talking about 'tech bro' / Musk is a stretch. He probably is medically obese (above 30 BMI). I know it isn't what USians call obese, but basically, for a man, once fat can be seen on your face, you're obese (I'm an ex-obese, I know).

Re: The broligarchs are trying to have their way

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Post by peutetre »

pintxo wrote: post #22
peutetre wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The internal processes of a political party aren't that interesting. There is a presidential election coming up. That is the test that actually matters. Kamala Harris will either win it or she won't. If she wins then she was good enough to win. If she doesn't win then she wasn't good enough to win.

Minus the fact that the election logic can result in the overall more successful candidate to loose. Because no one cared to adapt an over 200 year old rule to changes in transportation and communication technology over the last century.

It isn't minus the fact. To win the presidency you need to win the electoral college.

That's how it works and the same system applies to everyone.

Whether or not that system should change is a separate issue.

Re: The broligarchs are trying to have their way

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Post by reducesuffering »

ruok_throwaway wrote: post #14
rndmize wrote: post #12

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To a reasonably informed outsider the entire US political system looks like a cynical dirty circus. I have no horse in the political race; I only wish for the US to be strong, since I see it as a shining beacon for many good in the world. That said, you mentioned the ridiculousness of one side, with completely ignoring what has happened on the other. So let me list some of the hard to believe details regarding that o…

That you think any of those are anywhere near the realm of a US President attempting to subvert the peaceful transfer of power, a la third world dictator status, is exactly what OP meant. Dems are trying to field the candidate that Americans will vote the most for, so that tragedy doesn't happen again. The prediction markets are way up for a Dem win compared to Biden. It's what most Americans that would vote Democrat want.

Re: The broligarchs are trying to have their way

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Post by peutetre »

Gud wrote: post #24
peutetre wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The internal processes of a political party aren't that interesting. There is a presidential election coming up. That is the test that actually matters. Kamala Harris will either win it or she won't. If she wins then she was good enough to win. If she doesn't win then she wasn't good enough to win.

Obviously they are interesting. It's the preselection of what the general population can vote for. If you can only vote for two different candidates(which is the case now, Kamala Harris and Donald Trump), how the f*k is that democratic? It's a sham.

> It's the preselection of what the general population can vote for.

No. It's the candidate the party is putting forward.

> If you can only vote for two different candidates

There are five candidates in this election. Vote for the one you like best.

You can run for president too. When will you be announcing your 2028 campaign?

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