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Roblox is the biggest game in the world, but is unprofitable

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Re: Roblox is the biggest game in the world, but is unprofitable

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I can't recall the exact company name (Edit: it was TCI), but this was a smart accounting move that made one of the big US telcos frogleap the competition in the race for connectivity. Basically, the company invested sufficient into long term assets, big infra investments like cabling, towers, etc. Because of accounting rules, they could choose to amortize all of that investment in a straight line over 30 years, OR a…

Sounds like John Malone at TCI Cable

Re: Roblox is the biggest game in the world, but is unprofitable

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If you struck gold, don’t stop digging. If you hit growth, don’t stop reinvesting.

Any game has an inherently limited and temporary TAM, unless you can license the engine to other companies.

Roblox is not a game, and indeed makes its money by giving its engine to developers for free, then taking a cut of their earnings.

Re: Roblox is the biggest game in the world, but is unprofitable

#33
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Where is the money coming from if they are not profitable?

It's an accounting trick. 1) Make tons of cash. 2) Invest the cash back in the business. 3) Record this investment on the financials as an expense. 4) The expenses inflated by investment spending means you declare no profit and probably pay no tax on that profit you just hid. The alternative is: 1) declare profit 2) Pay tax on it 3) Reinvest what's left after the taxman took a cut. Which would you choose if you were…

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Re: Roblox is the biggest game in the world, but is unprofitable

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an accounting trick. 1) Make tons of cash. 2) Invest the cash back in the business. 3) Record this investment on the financials as an expense. 4) The expenses inflated by investment spending means you declare no profit and probably pay no tax on that profit you just hid. The alternative is: 1) declare profit 2) Pay tax on it 3) Reinvest what's left after the taxman took a cut. Which would you choose if you were…

Sorry but I'm an accountant and I can't abide such a terrible and incorrect description of how this works. Dunning Kruger in full effect on HN today.

I came in to say exactly the same thing. What OP is saying is literally a lie, accounting is much more sophisticated than that.

Re: Roblox is the biggest game in the world, but is unprofitable

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry but I'm an accountant and I can't abide such a terrible and incorrect description of how this works. Dunning Kruger in full effect on HN today.

Shame you couldn't manage an explanation and just went with abuse.

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Re: Roblox is the biggest game in the world, but is unprofitable

#36

I can't recall the exact company name (Edit: it was TCI), but this was a smart accounting move that made one of the big US telcos frogleap the competition in the race for connectivity. Basically, the company invested sufficient into long term assets, big infra investments like cabling, towers, etc. Because of accounting rules, they could choose to amortize all of that investment in a straight line over 30 years, OR a…

John Malone at TCI?

(I learned about it from HN here a couple days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41263855)

Re: Roblox is the biggest game in the world, but is unprofitable

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any game has an inherently limited and temporary TAM, unless you can license the engine to other companies.

What’s TAM?

total available market, the size of cake you split with your competitors

Re: Roblox is the biggest game in the world, but is unprofitable

#39

I can't recall the exact company name (Edit: it was TCI), but this was a smart accounting move that made one of the big US telcos frogleap the competition in the race for connectivity. Basically, the company invested sufficient into long term assets, big infra investments like cabling, towers, etc. Because of accounting rules, they could choose to amortize all of that investment in a straight line over 30 years, OR a…

John Malone at TCI? (I learned about it from HN here a couple days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41263855 )

wow, that is correct.

I read this in a book over 10 years ago, and now 2 articles about the same trick within the same week.

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