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Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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Re: Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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Do you have personal experience with this or something? Seems like a rather specific fear.

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I got a solution for you then. Any kid caught using their phone in school is expelled. We shall put personal responsibility and consequences as the primary objective. Does this solve your issue.

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Having used a Palm Pilot to genuine benefit in highschool in the 90s, and having finally just gotten a smart watch in part specifically to reduce smartphone usage, I have mixed feelings about broad restrictions. Networked smart phones absolutely have major addictive and disruptive effects, and are hard to police in practice. But watches provide some pretty useful health and emergency benefits, while IME have lived up…

Me and my wife were discussing this earlier, and we both agreed we missed the days of cellphones + PDAs. That era was so much less predatory to our time, and there’s something to be said about the mental separation between “fun text time” and a dedicated work device. It’s just a shame that given the current technological landscape the closest we have to PDAs are tablets, which are typically too large to pocket (and nonetheless an attractive option).

Re: Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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I got a solution for you then. Any kid caught using their phone in school is expelled. We shall put personal responsibility and consequences as the primary objective. Does this solve your issue.

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Re: Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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Not to diminish your fear of dogs, but that hardly seems like the core point to discuss about such a hugely consequential policy.

Many kids walk around on their own, and phone is absolutely essential communication tool.

School simply has no right to interfere here.

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I’m wondering what the distraction potential of a Fitbit is? Do they have more features now?

My guess is that they had prior experience with asking students not to use cellphones and they observed students start using wearables to skirt the ban, which led them to just ban all of them. An interesting consequence about the wearable ban is that they also banned medical electronic devices (e.g., heart monitors or blood sugar monitors) and parents are required to meet with administration to approve their use [1].…

Pacemaker and hearing aids as well, eventually a temp-teacher will cause a right mess.

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Do you have personal experience with this or something? Seems like a rather specific fear.

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> Dog attacks and bites are…way more common than car accidents

This is nonsense.

There are on “average 337,103 ED visits each year for dog bites,” with an “annual incidence” of “1.1 per 1,000” [1]. This makes them “the 13th most common injury,” exceeding “those occurring on motorcycles (14th), to pedestrians (15th) and firearm gunshot injuries (16th).” These result, however, in just 30 to 50 deaths per year [2].

Motor vehicles killed over 40 thousand Americans in 2021 and 2022 [3]. They are the fourth most common injury in EDs, and by far the more fatal one.

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6431755/

[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_Uni...

[3] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_...

Re: Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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Do you have personal experience with this or something? Seems like a rather specific fear.

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Do you have a source for this? Dog attacks being more common than car accidents seems extremely unlikely to me, given how prevalent car accidents are.

I really wouldn't expect a cellphone ban for students to result in a significant rise of delayed treatment for injuries caused specifically by dog attacks. Even if dogs attacking students is such a common occurrence that it warrants consideration in this proposal (which I doubt), it's still a school. Teachers and other staff are around. Just have them call emergency services in case of injuries.

Re: Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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Having used a Palm Pilot to genuine benefit in highschool in the 90s, and having finally just gotten a smart watch in part specifically to reduce smartphone usage, I have mixed feelings about broad restrictions. Networked smart phones absolutely have major addictive and disruptive effects, and are hard to police in practice. But watches provide some pretty useful health and emergency benefits, while IME have lived up…

Me and my wife were discussing this earlier, and we both agreed we missed the days of cellphones + PDAs. That era was so much less predatory to our time, and there’s something to be said about the mental separation between “fun text time” and a dedicated work device. It’s just a shame that given the current technological landscape the closest we have to PDAs are tablets, which are typically too large to pocket (and n…

Man I miss PDAs. My dad worked for 3com so I had a palm since about when I learned to read.

I was early with smartphones because I thought they'd essentially be PDAs with a modem ("They're just working out the kinks.") Smartphones have to be the most disappointing thing that's happened to consumer computing.

It's kind of funny that with pervasive networking I miss having to be mindful and sync everything I wanted to take with me.

Re: Greenwich schools to ban most cellphones, Apple Watches, Fitbits and more

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New Zealand just banned student mobile phones recently in all schools [1]. I would guess LTE connected devices would also count.

I think banning fitness trackers is a bit much, they are very useful for sports such as cycling, running, tri & swimming.

[1] https://www.education.govt.nz/school/digital-technology/cell...

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