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Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by lupusreal »

DonHopkins wrote: post #406
lupusreal wrote: post #352

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You've got some very confused beliefs about what mkv is and why it's used. Mkv is a container, not a codec, which is most often used to store lossy video and audio tracks. It can store lossless tracks too, but that is uncommon in practice. Other popular containers, such as mp4 (e.g. MPEG-4 Part 14), can also store lossless tracks. The biggest reason anime people prefer mkv to mp4 is because mkv supports the ASS/SSA s…

Those aren't my confused beliefs, I was literally quoting the text at the links. And you don't have to be so defensive by jumping to conclusions that I hate "weebs" and think they're all pervs (although the ones obsessed with sexualizing little girls are certainly misogynistic pervs). What I hate is spending precious time and effort catering to small groups of people obsessed with particular fetishes (perverted and m…

The link you're quoting is yourself, complaining about anime porn and asserting that mkv is popular because it's lossless.

Mkv really has nothing to do with VLCs usability problems. You're just grinding an axe against it because it's not a feature you value (or seem to even understand) but is valued by people you have evident disdain for (why even bring pornography into the discussion?)

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by nubinetwork »

diggan wrote: post #392
nubinetwork wrote: post #379

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Wasn't CCCP bundled with malware or something back in the day?

Not that I'm aware of, nor can I find any sources talking about it. Maybe you're confusing it with DivX that did something like that ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6409888 )? Both were popular during the same timeframe, so not impossible you're confusing the two.

Hmm... possibly. Funny how my memory works sometimes. ;)

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by hiptobecubic »

eviks wrote: post #387
maeln wrote: post #374

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VLC is *amazing* at its design purpose: being a rock solid video player. The GUI, the UX, and other things can be criticized, but I dare you to find another video player that will play just about *anything*, and without having to install external codec separately with weird licence. You can throw at it a broken mp4 file, a https url with basic auth, a weirdly encoded video, a DVD full of scratches, etc, chances are V…

> without having to install external codec separately with weird licence. What's up with this artificial limitation? I'd take frame back function over not having to install some codec pack once any time And 99.99% of the time you don't play "everything, with scratches", so UX issues are much more consequential than that

It's not artificial at all. It's a real limitation that was so outrageously annoying for the reasons mentioned above that VLC was able to "win" by tackling this one issue alone.

The success of vlc is all the proof you need. As you say, why else would it be so popular?

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by wrasee »

GuB-42 wrote: post #361
wrasee wrote: post #335

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But he didn't "just" say no: > If it's so easy, why are you not doing it? Talk is cheap. > I'll be waiting for your patch. Surely you're not as lazy and incompetent as the existing volunteer developers. I'd say that is pretty toxic. Specifically, that is no way to talk about other volunteer developers that contribute their time. It is precisely the kind of language that keeps people away from contributing to open sou…

This is taken out of context. He actually respects contributors, including their decision to not implement reverse play. The meaning here is "if you think the existing contributors are as incompetent and lazy as you are implying, then do better". I think he got caught up in the argument and that he should have just put the question in a FAQ entry and lock the thread before people start mentioning nazis.

Thanks for this. It seems you got that I misunderstood. I've clarified my point in another reply.

Also agree that if this is a question that keeps coming up a much better response would be to simply explain your reasoning once in an FAQ that carefully presents the argument and point all future discussions to that entry. Done.

To the average user, it's not at all obvious why reverse play is so much harder than it looks. Surely it's possible to understand that users might be confused by this? An well written FAQ on the subject would solve all of this.

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by SSLy »

literallycancer wrote: post #391
SSLy wrote: post #123

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That's a Dolby Vision Profile 5 file. A format that's very very proprietary. The only PC apps that can play them at all are https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9p9zh5fl1bfk?hl=en-ms&gl=M... and https://firecore.com/infuse

You can play it with mpv, it depends on the hardware/drivers. It worked fine on a random Ryzen Lenovo laptop with Linux even though MacOS version of mpv couldn't play it correctly on M2 (even though Apple claims that M2 is compatible with the format).

And you're sure it was a Profile 5, not 7/8 file?

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by Bluestein »

thrusong wrote: post #360

mpv is a key part of my home theatre automation I wrote in PHP. It runs on a Pi 4. PHP assembles playlists with a Dolby ad, a vintage dancing hot dog ad, trailers, and the feature. It runs mpv through proc_open. It monitors the progress and controls mpv through a socket to know when to dim or raise the lights, open or close the curtain, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7YEVGWJjvI

> Dolby ad, a vintage dancing hot dog ad, trailers, and the feature

This is great.-

Particularly the vintage dancing hot dog ad, mind you :)

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by quotemstr »

sebastos wrote: post #222
j1elo wrote: post #118

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Wow those answers are indeed funny. I agree that as an OSS dev/maintainer, it's easy to fall on the vice of over-generalization and crusade for the perfect solution, and it feels that's exactly what happened there. > this feature is algorithmically impossible > You're just looking at one specific video, not the general problem. > is not generally possible. As a fellow multimedia dev, man, who cares? Sometimes we forg…

Disagree! VLC is what it is today because the authors understood video standards enough to make the _right_ abstractions that could generalize to ~every video format ever. That is no easy task. Video container standards are utterly perverse, and seem to delight in stomping over even the most innocent intuitions about what you would expect to find in a stream of bits that purports to contain "video". They often refuse…

Yet the bumblebee flies. mpv does, in fact, have a working "go back one frame" button, so VLC protestations that such a thing is infeasible look silly now. Great example of "red pen" versus "blue pen" thinking: we should spend less time decrying things as wrong or impossible and more time looking for approaches that we might have overlooked. Less "no", more "yes, if".
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