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Because Everyone (Still) Needs a Router

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Re: Because Everyone (Still) Needs a Router

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One thing Jeff didn't mention is that due to the high CPU and RAM in that ASUS router, you can be downloading several different torrents and the internet experience in general won't be degraded.

With my Verizon FIOS's router, if I try to torrent anything it gets throttled down to less than 10KB/s, and on my old Linksys, attempting to torrent would make browsing the internet nearly impossible.

Re: Because Everyone (Still) Needs a Router

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post #18

How much does QoS matter on your home router when your next door neighbor might be downloading HD pr0n and sapping all the "local loop" bandwidth?

It doesn't matter at all. QoS on your local net will let you prioritize your VoIP over your streaming video, but has zero effect on your throughput if you are constrained by a shared resource upstream of your router.

Some people share their LANs with more disruptive users than others, so QoS on that LAN can be useful. But the article was not clear at all.

Re: Because Everyone (Still) Needs a Router

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I don't know. I am going to keep on hoping that I will be able get by with the router built into my DSL modem when I switch from cable to DSL. Or that I can use ethernet to get my Mac mini on the net while using the mini's Wifi to create an ad-hoc wireless network to get the iPad I plan to buy on the net. Or that I will build a Linux box and the motherboard will have wifi onboard. Or that I will build a Linux box and…

You know, not wanting things is great. Keeping things simple is great. This article is for those of us that favor functionality over simplicity. Just different views on things.

Re: Because Everyone (Still) Needs a Router

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post #20

No mention of Mikrotik? I picked up a RB750GL last week, and so far, it's everything DD-WRT/Tomato/etc wish they could be. It works as a basic plug-and-play router, but it's incredibly flexible beyond that. Check out http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:RouterOS_features if you're interested. You can download the OS and run it in a VM if you want to give it a try before purchasing.

> No mention of Mikrotik? FTA: (...) a combination of commodity hardware and open-source firmware. It's OK that you suggest RouterOS, I'm just saying OP is not supposed to mention it.

You're correct, I see how I missed that.

However, I'd argue that the use of open source firmware in this case is a means to an end, since proprietary firmware generally sucks. But since this is an article about how to have a quality Internet connection, rather than how to get started in router OS development, it might be more than suitable for many of his readers.

Re: Because Everyone (Still) Needs a Router

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post #16

Maybe this is a reasonable place to ask for some advice: I have 2 broadband connections, one via my phone line (ADSL) (76/17) and one cable (50/4) does anyone have any experience with using 1 piece of hardware to manage them both, possibly load balancing (not important, but would be cool)? I currently have 1 modem and 2 routers... it's not a very power efficient set up, it's also a bad experience because they're all…

I've done this with Soekris and Cisco. The tricky part is getting a router that will take a cable modem module (not sure if either Soekris or Cisco will), plus a DSL terminator (both Soekris and Cisco will). These are not consumer tech, and they're not cheap. Then you have to get or guess the configs for both WAN links, possibly with unhelpful residential support techs. Cisco 2600 class routers are power hungry and l…

> The tricky part is getting a router that will take ...

Or if you're lucky enough for your provided devices to support real bridge, put both of your devices in dumb mode and plug that as ethernet into your dual-wan device. That's still hardware present but management is kept to the absolute minimum. Plus sometimes you don't really have a choice to use the provided devices...

BTW, do yourself a favor and don't get a Zyxel device.

Re: Because Everyone (Still) Needs a Router

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One thing Jeff didn't mention is that due to the high CPU and RAM in that ASUS router, you can be downloading several different torrents and the internet experience in general won't be degraded. With my Verizon FIOS's router, if I try to torrent anything it gets throttled down to less than 10KB/s, and on my old Linksys, attempting to torrent would make browsing the internet nearly impossible.

Curious if it is possible to take the FIOS router out of the equation entirely?

Re: Because Everyone (Still) Needs a Router

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post #24

How does this compare to buying an Airport Express/Extreme?

I bought an Airport Extreme and have been somewhat disappointed with it.

I hadn't heard the term QoS until today.

It looks like Airports lack it: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1115580

Which is sad. We've got 5-10 devices connected at any one time and have had really terrible problems in terms of getting a consistently fast connection.

It seems like my internet connection has gotten worse over the past 4 years living in San Francisco and it's hard to pinpoint the cause because of the lack of innovation in routers. It would be nice to see someone come out with something really innovative here that shows easily what type of traffic you are getting and what is causing slowdowns.

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