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Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

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Re: Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

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Post by rchaud »

baxtr wrote: post #30

This is only half true. It needs to read: “ Any VC backed startup can steal IP and hire lawyers to clean up the mess” If you have money, you can usually buy influence and also buy your way out of a ‘mess’. Just make sure that those you steal from have less money/influence at their disposal than you.

Exactly. Uber was an illegal taxi service, and Airbnb was an illegal hotel service that skated on technicalities thanks to an an army of lawyers and influential cheerleaders on Capitol Hill and CNBC beating the drums of "innovation".

The playbook has been in operation for over a decade.

Re: Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

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Post by mistrial9 »

csouzaf wrote: post #46

It's crazy to see the repercussions of the talk he gave at Stanford, even after the video was made private by the Stanford YouTube channel. I thought the talk was great. I remember in the talk he said something like this, but he was being really open about what normally happens in these types of companies. I think the problem is that he, as someone in a position of power, was too open about it?

> It's crazy

that is a phrase often used by people who are appealing to an invisible sense of "us versus them", emphasizing that the crazy thing-person-event is "not us" ?

> even after the video was made private by the Stanford YouTube channel

private conversations among the very powerful is exactly the topic.. so this seems a bit of a Freudian slip

> I thought the talk was great.

I am one of "us" so why so much upset from "them" ? Can we get some social mutual-assurance that "them" are so wrong, and "us" is OK (and continue to be wealthy) ?

> he was being really open about what normally happens in these types of companies

normal ! this is normal ! why are "them" so upset when this is obviously normal, right ?!

> I think the problem is that he, as someone in a position of power, was too open about it?

clearly we need to keep up the secret conversations among the wealthy and powerful ?

Re: Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

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Post by dangcock »

Arainach wrote: post #14
ronsor wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It just works, and if anything, it's a sign the law is broken if you have to ignore it to succeed (and it's profitable to do so).

That's absurd. It's also incredibly profitable to rob a bank or to dump chemicals in the river instead of properly cleaning them up, but that's not a signal the law is broken.

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Re: Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

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Post by bugglebeetle »

csouzaf wrote: post #46

It's crazy to see the repercussions of the talk he gave at Stanford, even after the video was made private by the Stanford YouTube channel. I thought the talk was great. I remember in the talk he said something like this, but he was being really open about what normally happens in these types of companies. I think the problem is that he, as someone in a position of power, was too open about it?

> I thought the talk was great.

The talk was effectively how to be a criminal sociopath with some minor technology set dressing, so please elaborate on its greatness.

Re: Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

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Post by mistrial9 »

highcountess wrote: post #44
Arainach wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's absurd. It's also incredibly profitable to rob a bank or to dump chemicals in the river instead of properly cleaning them up, but that's not a signal the law is broken.

Considering that it is solely a function of how influential, powerful, how much part of the aristocratic circle you are, or have bought them off that determines whether you are thrown in jail or are celebrated; by definition is is a clear signal that the law is broken. Just because you can't rob a bank or pollute a river does not mean that the law is applied equally at all levels and, e.g., the government/Fed is stop…

"the King, in his gracious majesty, has forbidden both rich and poor alike, from sleeping under bridges in the rain"

Re: Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

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Post by kaffeeringe »

baxtr wrote: post #30

This is only half true. It needs to read: “ Any VC backed startup can steal IP and hire lawyers to clean up the mess” If you have money, you can usually buy influence and also buy your way out of a ‘mess’. Just make sure that those you steal from have less money/influence at their disposal than you.

Crime pays, when you are rich.

Re: Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

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Post by tracerbulletx »

omoikane wrote: post #17

It's hard to tell if what Eric Schmidt was saying was a joke, an observation, or a recommendation. One interpretation from the context of the transcript seem to be "AI can make/steal stuff and manual intervention (lawyers) can clean those up later". Another interpretation from the context of Eric Schmidt being a savvy businessman is that people should go ahead and solve all the technical challenges first, and everyth…

It's not specifically about technical problems. He's saying that you need to just go all in on getting traction and not constantly be worrying about things that aren't going to matter if you never get it. It's the same thing as people who just opine about how they'll handle the big server bills, or how they'll scale to a billion users, or how they'll deal with regulations, when they haven't gotten their first user yet.
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