Ex-Google CEO: AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to 'clean up the mess'

Post by lucianbr » Sat, Aug 17, 2024, 4:17 PM UTC

wahnfrieden wrote: post #16

aprilthird2021 wrote: post #10

Another absurd and less covered part of the speech is this: > If TikTok is banned, here's what I propose each and every one of you do. > Say to your LLM the following. > Make me a copy of TikTok, steal all the users, steal all the music, put my preferences in it, produce this program in the next 30 seconds, release it and in one hour, if it's not viral, do something different along the same lines. > That's the comman…

He’s describing agentic LLM tools which don’t exist in a usable state yet but also may not require full on AGI to create later on with the help of code/rules on top and from within. And he’s saying why this is useful beyond being able to do it without a workforce that costs a lot - because it’s fast enough for anyone large or small to iterate quickly with once it works, like the next step beyond continuous deployment…

Post by nradov » Sat, Aug 17, 2024, 4:18 PM UTC

mistrial9 wrote: post #15

ronsor wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It just works, and if anything, it's a sign the law is broken if you have to ignore it to succeed (and it's profitable to do so).

> the law is broken according to some theory, the law is always broken in some ways, but the practice of a lawful society is to converge towards not-broken, over and over again. Is theory consistent with practice? well, ask yourself which governance, which language group, which implementors of law.. since they are composed of humans. While we are at it with a thought exercise.. how are large tech companies with new s…

Post by wombatpm » Sat, Aug 17, 2024, 4:19 PM UTC

lucianbr wrote: post #26

scarmig wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mass scraping the Internet and linking to different places was also legally questionable until lawyers hammered it out. Would the world be a better place if search engines had been preemptively ruled illegal?

As a regular joe, try to do something legally questionable against Oracle, and then "have the lawyers hammer it out". See how much of a good place the world is in this case. The problem is this stuff is highly asymmetric. Things are always "hammered out" in their favor, because you cannot afford to be a party to the "hammering out".

Post by CatWChainsaw » Sat, Aug 17, 2024, 4:19 PM UTC

mensetmanusman wrote: post #24

I hope this teaches billionaires to never speak candidly to groups.

Post by saagarjha » Sat, Aug 17, 2024, 4:20 PM UTC

trentnix wrote: post #28

Ex-Google CEO says successful AI startups can steal IP and hire lawyers to ‘clean up the mess’ Eric Schmidt has a similar approach to his extra-marital affairs.