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Slow is smooth, smooth is fast: Navy SEALs' efficiency secret

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Re: Slow is smooth, smooth is fast: Navy SEALs' efficiency secret

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Post by dang »

localfirst wrote: post #115
risenshinetech wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not "practicing murder". They're not "practicing killing you". Stop with this hyperbolic nonsense. The military practices murder, not you and your mates in your local BJJ class. Do you say these things to make yourself feel cooler/tougher when you inevitably tell someone you practice BJJ? And I'm sure they didn't ask, you just worked it into the conversation (much like this post) because you can't wait to tel…

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Re: Slow is smooth, smooth is fast: Navy SEALs' efficiency secret

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Post by maxioatic »

borski wrote: post #68
voisin wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You pull the barbell up from the ground (like a deadlift) while dropping into a squat, and then get it up over your head while standing up. It is much more explosive than either the deadlift or squat separately.

Just watched a video[0] and yeah, why? I’ve dislocated my shoulder far too many times to have any interest whatsoever in this lmao But - it being explosive makes perfect sense, but what does it work that deadlift or squats alone don’t? Or is the point the explosiveness? [0] https://youtu.be/UBc5N_-xdqo

Why… well, it’s a sport where you compete to lift the most weight. The other competition lift is the clean and jerk.

For my old ass I do it because it’s so hard and the rest of my life is fairly soft. Waking up and getting beat down by some snatches (or occasionally having a great session) keeps me level headed in other areas of life, I guess.

If you’re not a competitive weightlifter but still training explosiveness for other sports then you’re better off doing variations on the lifts. Like hang snatches, power cleans, power snatches, etc.

Re: Slow is smooth, smooth is fast: Navy SEALs' efficiency secret

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Post by ikekkdcjkfke »

bamboozled wrote: post #42
lubujackson wrote: post #5

"Pants on fire" startups would do well to learn from this... a whole lot less stress and better results vs. slamming out midnight patches.

Except navy seals do tactical operations.

Can we discuss the word 'tactical'

Re: Slow is smooth, smooth is fast: Navy SEALs' efficiency secret

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Post by abhijat »

borski wrote: post #18

This is one of the first really important lessons you learn in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Everyone walks in, day one, and is dumping adrenaline everywhere they look. I mean, the person in front of you is literally engaging you in practicing murder, so I get it. Everyone starts that way. Super tense, super shallow breathing, and everyone wears themselves out in about 30-40 seconds. Of a 6 minute round. Doesn’t matter if you…

Being relaxed is important in boxing too, if you don't stay loose and relaxed (other than snapping explosively when throwing a punch), it is easy to get fatigued quickly and also harder to slip or roll.

Re: Slow is smooth, smooth is fast: Navy SEALs' efficiency secret

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Post by js2 »

borski wrote: post #68
voisin wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You pull the barbell up from the ground (like a deadlift) while dropping into a squat, and then get it up over your head while standing up. It is much more explosive than either the deadlift or squat separately.

Just watched a video[0] and yeah, why? I’ve dislocated my shoulder far too many times to have any interest whatsoever in this lmao But - it being explosive makes perfect sense, but what does it work that deadlift or squats alone don’t? Or is the point the explosiveness? [0] https://youtu.be/UBc5N_-xdqo

It's an Olympic sport. Watch this compilation of Pyrros Dimas Olympic lifts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ICfmC8z8oI&t=6s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrros_Dimas

Re: Slow is smooth, smooth is fast: Navy SEALs' efficiency secret

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Post by nicbou »

agumonkey wrote: post #55
roughly wrote: post #13

Especially as I've gotten older, I've noticed I do less work more slowly than my younger peers, but I only have to do it once, and I usually get closer to the root than my younger colleagues. Measure twice and all that.

Long ago a cousin challenged the uncle for a swim. Both are acceptable athletes. He started faster, was ahead for 50m or so and then came back cooked. The uncle started 30% slower... but he kept at that rhythm forever until we couldn't see him and came back unphased. Very telling lesson.

I get significantly further as a cyclist when I slow down to a more sustainable pace. It’s crazy how a little extra speed burns a disproportionate amount of energy.

Re: Slow is smooth, smooth is fast: Navy SEALs' efficiency secret

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Post by lamontcg »

motohagiography wrote: post #40

this phrase is used in sailing, skiing, motorcycling, showjumping, skydiving, tennis, classical musicianship, downhill mountain biking, and lately I hear, mma. I have some doubt that it originated with door kickers.

Cave diving uses that phrase as well.

I suspect it does originate in the military, though, and probably reloading guns and cannons while under fire. Might go back further than that to bows and arrows.

Looks like a related term "make haste slowly" dates back to Roman times and was applied to military commanders: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festina_lente

Re: Slow is smooth, smooth is fast: Navy SEALs' efficiency secret

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Post by roughly »

bamboozled wrote: post #63
roughly wrote: post #13

Especially as I've gotten older, I've noticed I do less work more slowly than my younger peers, but I only have to do it once, and I usually get closer to the root than my younger colleagues. Measure twice and all that.

As you get older you probably just get more sure in your on views, abilities and ways of doing things. Not judging whether or not what your saying is correct, just something I've noticed my parents do. Sometimes they do this to their detriment.

Yeah, this is something I try to be aware of - I’ve got my style and it works well, but it’s not the only style and in many cases it’s not the best. I’ve got a team of mostly senior folks, all of whom have very different styles, and it’s been a real delight getting to see how other people whose skill and experience I respect approach problems, even if sometimes I’m white-knuckling my chair arms because it’s so far off of how I’d handle it.

Re: Slow is smooth, smooth is fast: Navy SEALs' efficiency secret

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Post by borski »

abhijat wrote: post #124
borski wrote: post #18

This is one of the first really important lessons you learn in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Everyone walks in, day one, and is dumping adrenaline everywhere they look. I mean, the person in front of you is literally engaging you in practicing murder, so I get it. Everyone starts that way. Super tense, super shallow breathing, and everyone wears themselves out in about 30-40 seconds. Of a 6 minute round. Doesn’t matter if you…

Being relaxed is important in boxing too, if you don't stay loose and relaxed (other than snapping explosively when throwing a punch), it is easy to get fatigued quickly and also harder to slip or roll.

Yeah - I imagine that’s true for a ton of sports, but especially for any combat sport. I mean, even in shooting pistol (I shot sport pistol in college), breathing is the main thing you can control, and the main thing that will screw you.

Re: Slow is smooth, smooth is fast: Navy SEALs' efficiency secret

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Post by borski »

maxioatic wrote: post #122
borski wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just watched a video[0] and yeah, why? I’ve dislocated my shoulder far too many times to have any interest whatsoever in this lmao But - it being explosive makes perfect sense, but what does it work that deadlift or squats alone don’t? Or is the point the explosiveness? [0] https://youtu.be/UBc5N_-xdqo

Why… well, it’s a sport where you compete to lift the most weight. The other competition lift is the clean and jerk. For my old ass I do it because it’s so hard and the rest of my life is fairly soft. Waking up and getting beat down by some snatches (or occasionally having a great session) keeps me level headed in other areas of life, I guess. If you’re not a competitive weightlifter but still training explosiveness…

Totally fair, all of it. Thanks for the explanation. When you put it as simply as “it’s about who can lift more weight,” my question looks dumb in retrospect, of course.

It would be just as easy for someone to incredulously ask me why I love BJJ, despite being hypermobile and having a much higher chance of injury as a result.

It’s about what you love. That’s why you do it. That makes perfect sense.

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