How is Google more of a Monopoly than Microsoft?
Why does it have to be more of a monopoly than Microsoft to be considered a monopoly?
Google is a monopoly – the fix isn't obvious
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Re: Google is a monopoly – the fix isn't obvious
#102I'm very curious to see what a breakup looks like. Past breakups involved "uniform" businesses: - American Tobacco: Commodity - Standard Oil: Commodity - AT&T: Utility - Northern Securities: Railroads - Swift & Co: Meatpacking - Kodak: Film - Paramount: Movie Theaters Google is more of a synergistic conglomerate. How would spinning off an individual business like Chrome, Android, or AdWords reduce their respective do…
If the search business worked with other ad networks to maximize their revenue, while the ad business worked with other search engines, we’d likely see higher quality search results, less confusion about what’s an ad versus a result, and better as rates for buyers.
That said I don’t support that remedy at all. Maybe ten or fifteen years ago, but now it’s too late and the market is evolving around Google. IMO a consent decree that they won’t pay anyone for exclusive search placement is sufficient.
Re: Google is a monopoly – the fix isn't obvious
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You couldn't even own a phone under Ma Bell. Meanwhile just about every product Google has I can use someone else.
Ma Bell didn’t have the power to cut off advertising revenue to YouTubers who say things the company does like, nor the power to shape the global access to information with search, nor did they scan people’s communications
They don't even ban you (it's very hard to get banned on youtube) and it's the advertisers themselves who decide this.
>nor did they scan people’s communications They don't scan emails and never have.
And you could move to an alternative browser/search/youtube (if someone could host one profitably) by the end of the day.
Re: Google is a monopoly – the fix isn't obvious
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I’d pay for consumer tier (which we’ll pretend was the former free tier) if I got proper customer service number I could call. I don’t use it enough to pay for a business tier
Google One includes phone support.
Re: Google is a monopoly – the fix isn't obvious
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#107How is Google more of a Monopoly than Microsoft?
How is google a monopoly at all? There’s competition and alternative for each of their products. And people can keep using the alternatives if they want. I can choose iOS over Android. Bing over Google. Yahoo over Gmail. Dailymotion over YouTube. Why is it a problem that google makes a superior product and people choose it ? In all studies, when consumers get faced the decision to choose freely any search engine, mos…
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Google_LLC_(2...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Antitrust_Act_of_1890
Re: Google is a monopoly – the fix isn't obvious
#108I feel like the US should have serious conversations about it's regulation of monopolies, especially on internet giants. The current system seems to be woefully ineffective. On the one hand, it's not clear it's necessarily, Google isn't a particularly old company it hasn't had a strangle hold for long and it doesn't look like it's business is unassailable. So why go after it at all. On the other hand, the anti-monopo…
The Apple deal had two sides engaged in monopolistic behavior. One was Google buying out that default provider option. The other was Apple, having that default option.
What UI are you imagining? Perhaps no search engine at all in the browser but the first time a user goes to "search" you present them with a list of random-sorted search engines?
Maybe the problem was that Apple has "that default option for sale."
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> tech products tend to be natural monopolies Based on what evidence? Isn't the simpler explanation "VC wants big return; VC funds tech; therefore VC encourages monopolies"?
Network effects are just so strong. Once a particular option has ingrained itself for a particular use-case they can make it extremely difficult for any alternative to become viable even if it's technologically superior. Just look at Windows vs Linux.
Re: Google is a monopoly – the fix isn't obvious
#110Search is about to get disrupted by LLMs. Heck, aren't teens searching on Tiktok more than Google nowadays?