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Inside the "3 billion people" national public data breach

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Re: Inside the "3 billion people" national public data breach

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I still don't get why people are calling these "religious fears". The parable from the book is because the problem is very old, but the problem is exactly the same as it ever was: If a central authority gives everyone a serial number then it will be used to track them by powerful institutions, which is a tool of oppression. This is the massive mistake we made with social security numbers, and their inherent insecurit…

>I still don't get why people are calling these "religious fears". People are calling these "religious fears" because they are fears very often based on religion. People who fear the Mark of the Beast aren't simply worried about being tracked by powerful institutions, they're looking for prophetic signs of the antichrist and Satanic one world government that their holy book says will lead to the second coming of Chri…

> People who fear the Mark of the Beast aren't simply worried about being tracked by powerful institutions, they're looking for prophetic signs of the antichrist and Satanic one world government that their holy book says will lead to the second coming of Christ and Armageddon.

This is the "weak man" version of the argument. It goes in the book because the (relatively wise and experienced) authors wanted to warn people of the dangers of a real problem. Nutters read metaphors as literal and then people who want to discredit the argument point to the least credible of the nutters as the proponents. But you don't have to believe in The Devil to believe that authoritarians exist and have provably caused great pain and oppression throughout history.

Isaac Newton was a Christian but you don't have to believe in God to believe in gravity.

> Then ban cellphones.

The problem here isn't so much "cellphones" the abstract concept in which you have a portable computer with a network connection, as the current implementation of cellphones which are in actual fact implemented as tracking devices. Which, okay, let's also make cellphones that are actually controlled by their owners and don't act as mass surveillance devices. Sounds good.

> Unless you want to go full Kaczynski and run off into the woods to live off the grid, you can't avoid having identifiers attached to you.

There is a difference between "you have a social security number which the social security administration uses exclusively for social security and no one else uses for anything" and "you have a social security number which every corporation and bureaucracy uses as the primary key in a database to correlate everything you do in your entire life". The kind of ID systems people keep proposing are the ones that do the second one, and that's the bad one.

Re: Inside the "3 billion people" national public data breach

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I have a silly standup joke along these lines, about how I'd Google things crazy things like "circus lawyer" or "giraffe mitigation tactics" to throw the algorithm off every now and then.

My friend is a thriller writer and is convinced he’s on some FBI list. He’s googling stuff such as “how to dissolve a body with quicklime” and all sorts of other fun stuff while researching for his books.

The quicklime method shouldn't be particularly fast, at least that's what my chemical intuition says (CaOH2 is barely soluble in water). What a bad name!

Re: Inside the "3 billion people" national public data breach

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The reason the Shaggy defense doesn't work is the default assumption of the courts is that you're a deadbeat trying to game the system. This assumption comes about because in the majority of cases it is the truth. The system would be a lot nicer if there weren't people trying to scam it every hour of every day of the week.

> The reason the Shaggy defense doesn't work is the default assumption of the courts is that you're a deadbeat trying to game the system Isn't that the opposite of innocent until proven guilty?

When I was in the Boy Scouts, a local judge came to speak with us about the legal system. I asked a similar question and he admonished me that innocent people never wind up in court. He explained that every person who is in a trial (criminal or civil) is guilty of something. A judge's job was merely to determine if the prosecution or plantiff was correct about what the defendant was guilty of. He was very annoyed that ignorant people, who had never been to law school, kept spreading this nonsense that some defendants were innocent.

Re: Inside the "3 billion people" national public data breach

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conveniently emitting the fact that this is a reaction to immigrants going around randomly attacking birtish people. If you aren't already consider workong for MSM.

That doesn't make it any less racist! But please give some more details on that. The only case I've heard about was a single attacker who was incorrectly called an immigrant.

It adds context which people who manipulate the overtone window for political games and name calling like to exclude.

The person was a immigrants child. Considering there obvious (violent) refusal to integrate they are too an immigrant.

Re: Inside the "3 billion people" national public data breach

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For years I've said the entire SSN database just needs to be published alongside legislation strictly assigning liability to any company who defrauded as a result of using the SSN as a "secret". That would fix the problem with SSN's and "identity theft" quickly. Part 1 has been accomplished. Let's get part 2 going! Aside: It amazes me how the American public has allowed defrauded companies to assign the company's los…

As crazy as it is… kinda smart lol

Re: Inside the "3 billion people" national public data breach

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Downloaded the torrent, and it's a 164GB text file. What's a quick way to search if my SSN is in the file? I ask before diving in, it's currently extracting and ETA is 40 minutes.

Use grep with some optimizations:

    LC_ALL=C fgrep 'ssn' file.txt
https://stackoverflow.com/a/13913220

Re: Inside the "3 billion people" national public data breach

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Downloaded the torrent, and it's a 164GB text file. What's a quick way to search if my SSN is in the file? I ask before diving in, it's currently extracting and ETA is 40 minutes.

Hey, if I give you my SSN can you check to see if it is in there for me?

Re: Inside the "3 billion people" national public data breach

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It is crazy to me that data brokers are even a legal form of business. All of these services should be opt in at minimum. If they are obtaining publicly available information and making it easier to access, they should have to maintain insurance or a deposit with the government to compensate victims of cybersecurity incidents. Telling people to get credit monitoring is in NO WAY an acceptable way to make us whole. Th…

We're two decades into "The Digital Millennium" and our laws are still stuck in 1999 (except for the ones that ya know, allow dragnet spying). I'd wholeheartedly support any candidates that push for a data/privacy "Bill of rights".

Good news, the Fifth Circuit court just ruled that Geo-fenced warrants are illegal!

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/08/5th-circuit-rule...

Since this is in conflict with a Fourth Circuit ruling, we will probably see it in front of the Supreme Court.

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