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Re: I don't "get" art

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I don't "get" Vice's articles.

Vice occasionally has some good stuff, but this is pretty vapid. Most of the art world is crap. Most of anything is crap. Not a recent development.

Being flippant about contemporary art is about as easy as it gets. "Hey, look, this Rothko idiot just put a bunch of red on a canvas. What a tool."

Perhaps I don't 'get' VICE.

(edit) although having said that, art openings are one of my least favourite things imaginable. I just don't blog about them afterwards.

Re: I don't "get" art

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If Glen Coco (The author) never "got" art I'm not sure why he devoted so much of his life to it. I felt like this article was a farce.

I've often contemplated writing a blog post titled "Art analysis for the uninitiated". If you'd be interested please let me know.

Some analysis from an art student:

1st piece with the flowers: This looks to be an homage to still life paintings. Still lifes are about the cycle of life; Birth, Life, and Death. Seems pretty straightforward to me but then again I'm "initiated".

2nd piece with the woman in the desert: I couldn't tell you exactly what the artist was looking to portray but to debunk the "how quickly they'd be skipping over this photo if it was in their mom's holiday snapshots" line, I'd assume that is exactly the point. See Duchamp's Urinal fountain for more along this idea of "things out of traditional context".

the 4th piece (film): Art is either done without reason or with specific reason. The chairs, the screen and the video all have a reason for being the way that they are. It's your choice to interpret this but don't dismiss what the artist is saying because you are scared to "look like a twat".

I can go on and on but I think I've made my point. This has meaning. It may not be valuable to you but then again no one forced you to view this art.

Re: I don't "get" art

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Art is simple. It exists to decorate the walls of rich people. It's been that way for thousands of years. I'm not very rich, but I have some art around the place. It's pretty awesome. The problem is that a lot of these artists don't get art. They are confused about their role in life, and they go round wasting their time making things that rich people wouldn't want on their walls. And that's just pointless and sad.

What's it called when poor people put it on the wall?

Re: I don't "get" art

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I knew my wife was the woman for me when we visited the Tate Modern on our first date and both walked out after 30 minutes agreeing that it's all garbage. [and went to Greenwich park and observatory which is awesome] Art is the ultimate example of social proof at work. Another great one is wine. I live in the Bordeaux winelands and the only difference between Premier Cru wines like Chateau Margaux at $400 a bottle an…

I revisited the Tate Modern recently and a lot of the permanent exhibits are less bullshit than they used to be.

Video Of Naked Guy Punching Himself In The Face Repeatedly While His Genitals Wibble Back And Forth, for instance, has been put away.

Re: I don't "get" art

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post #33

If Glen Coco (The author) never "got" art I'm not sure why he devoted so much of his life to it. I felt like this article was a farce. I've often contemplated writing a blog post titled "Art analysis for the uninitiated". If you'd be interested please let me know. Some analysis from an art student: 1st piece with the flowers: This looks to be an homage to still life paintings. Still lifes are about the cycle of life;…

>>I felt like this article was a farce.

Oh, HN. You take everything so seriously. It's VICE!

Re: I don't "get" art

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Art is simple. It exists to decorate the walls of rich people. It's been that way for thousands of years. I'm not very rich, but I have some art around the place. It's pretty awesome. The problem is that a lot of these artists don't get art. They are confused about their role in life, and they go round wasting their time making things that rich people wouldn't want on their walls. And that's just pointless and sad.

What's it called when poor people put it on the wall?

Lascaux.

Re: I don't "get" art

#38
I can't claim to 'get' art, but I absolutely love beauty. Some art is beautiful. Other art sucks. I think the key is to find and appreciate things that you consider beautiful and ignore all the critics, trust fund collectors, and scenesters...

Re: I don't "get" art

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Art is simple. It exists to decorate the walls of rich people. It's been that way for thousands of years. I'm not very rich, but I have some art around the place. It's pretty awesome. The problem is that a lot of these artists don't get art. They are confused about their role in life, and they go round wasting their time making things that rich people wouldn't want on their walls. And that's just pointless and sad.

It's still true if you enlarge your conception of decoration a bit. For the most part, curated art shows exist as 'life adornment' for the privileged. Bask in the glow of talented or beautiful people, chew on a few radical ideas, but above all go to amazing parties.

The artists that I respect try hard to subvert that system or exist outside it. They produce street art, ephemeral or illegal installations, billboard liberations, surreal events, art that is miles and miles away from populated places, things that aren't obviously art but look more like technology, and so on. I think my favorite art-thing of the past decade was Swoon's Swimming Cities, where she lashed together boats made of artfully arranged junk and floated down rivers with a motley crew of performers.

Of course this kind of art can be commoditized too, but it's more resistant.

Re: I don't "get" art

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This is a very old article. He did a follow-up piece last year: http://www.vice.com/read/frieze-fair-trying-to-get-art It's good to see that the irony of VICE has been largely lost on the HN crowd here as we discuss what makes "good" art. Haha.

He just did this piece too: http://www.vice.com/read/giving-art-a-chance-to-defend-itsel...

I'm starting to think he just likes to bash the idea of people expressing themselves in any way shape or form. His guide provided thoughtful insight and he just continued to have the "Holier-than-thou/na-na-nah-not-listening" attitude throughout.

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