It amazes me that something as simple and obvious as cut and paste had to be invented. Even more amazing that we can actually point to the person that did it.
There will be a lot of obvious stuff invented in the future that we aren't thinking about now.
Larry Tesler pioneered cut-and-paste, the one-button mouse, WYSIWYG (2005)
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Re: Larry Tesler pioneered cut-and-paste, the one-button mouse, WYSIWYG (2005)
#42It amazes me that something as simple and obvious as cut and paste had to be invented. Even more amazing that we can actually point to the person that did it.
Back before 2009, early iPhones didn't have cut/copy and paste. Folks had to figure out a good scheme that worked with touch screens.
In Jonny Ives’ brilliance, the magnified view was done away with for several iOS versions.
This man was Karl Pilkington of technology.
Re: Larry Tesler pioneered cut-and-paste, the one-button mouse, WYSIWYG (2005)
#43Just as others have pointed out that cut-and-paste was a term around a long time before this reference, so too was WYSIWYG. The Dramatics had a top popular song in 1971[0] using the same phrase as its title (albeit spelled slightly differently). I hope we don't hear next about the computer hero who "invented" the term "desktop", or "folder". [0] https://www.discogs.com/master/185397-The-Dramatics-Whatcha-...
Re: Larry Tesler pioneered cut-and-paste, the one-button mouse, WYSIWYG (2005)
#44It amazes me that something as simple and obvious as cut and paste had to be invented. Even more amazing that we can actually point to the person that did it.
Back before 2009, early iPhones didn't have cut/copy and paste. Folks had to figure out a good scheme that worked with touch screens.
Re: Larry Tesler pioneered cut-and-paste, the one-button mouse, WYSIWYG (2005)
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
There will be a lot of obvious stuff invented in the future that we aren't thinking about now.
Often the obvious stuff was invented decades ago, but some old people in power persistently refuse to implement into major products. Like the ability to copy multiple things without overwriting the previous entry. Who would ever need that?!
Re: Larry Tesler pioneered cut-and-paste, the one-button mouse, WYSIWYG (2005)
#46It amazes me that something as simple and obvious as cut and paste had to be invented. Even more amazing that we can actually point to the person that did it.
The alternative, as used e.g. by the Xerox Star, was select-and-copy/move. The advantage over cut-and-paste is that you don't have invisible fragile state. However, the Star implementation had copy and move modes (select source, COPY, mouse to destination, CLICK) and Tesler hated modes. I don't know why Star didn't use the modeless version (select source, mouse to destination, COPY).
Also, I’ve seen some terrible move UI. It may seem cool to have a big floating blob of text follow the curser but that doesn’t work well when you want to move multiple pages or across multiple pages.
Re: Larry Tesler pioneered cut-and-paste, the one-button mouse, WYSIWYG (2005)
#47It amazes me that something as simple and obvious as cut and paste had to be invented. Even more amazing that we can actually point to the person that did it.
The alternative, as used e.g. by the Xerox Star, was select-and-copy/move. The advantage over cut-and-paste is that you don't have invisible fragile state. However, the Star implementation had copy and move modes (select source, COPY, mouse to destination, CLICK) and Tesler hated modes. I don't know why Star didn't use the modeless version (select source, mouse to destination, COPY).
Re: Larry Tesler pioneered cut-and-paste, the one-button mouse, WYSIWYG (2005)
#48Bret Victor - Larry's Principle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGDrIy1G1gU (~38:08)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3591298
Re: Larry Tesler pioneered cut-and-paste, the one-button mouse, WYSIWYG (2005)
#49It amazes me that something as simple and obvious as cut and paste had to be invented. Even more amazing that we can actually point to the person that did it.
>> something as simple and obvious as cut and paste had to be invented. Which is was. A few hundred years ago. Cut-and-paste began as a manual process. Arranging material for printed often involved very literal cutting and pasting of text and images. Entire trades (typesetters) were dedicated to the task. A more accurate description of Tesler's contribution was that he was the first to implement the concept in the di…
Re: Larry Tesler pioneered cut-and-paste, the one-button mouse, WYSIWYG (2005)
#50One button mouse was one of the worst inventions. Mice need at least 3 buttons to be useful. You sometimes need to select something and sometimes you need to launch it. Or you need to select in several different ways. Because of this miss-invention they had to invent the double-click and all the complexity of timing (try making double click for someone old an nearing senile and someone young and fast with the same ti…
I don't know what the ideal number of mouse buttons, but agree that it is more than one. The odd thing is it's appearance in the Macintosh: a computer where the user was supposed to orient most of their actions around the mouse. That said, I'm pretty sure the double click came about because certain operations were costly. There is no particular reason why would couldn't use a single click to launch and application or…
I believe Steve Jobs was pretty adamant about keeping the one button mouse on the Mac for years and it was absolutely the right call. The Mac was way easier to use back then!