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Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by concinds »

oneshtein wrote: post #787
peapod91 wrote: post #786

The dominance of the negativity in these comments is noteworthy. Personally, I thought it was a exciting update with major hardware improvements, some compelling AI demos and use cases at a similar price point as the past. Top tech reviewers e.g. MKBHD has similar impressions. Mostly just curious as to why there are ~0 positive comments here. I suspect could be: 1) anti-google HN bias - perhaps deserved? 2) it's simp…

You see «negative comments» where we see «constructive criticism» and «helpful reviews». It's not a «happy news» site.

People who have never held the phone are not giving "reviews". They're trotting out pet peeves.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by noaccesstomy »

peapod91 wrote: post #786

The dominance of the negativity in these comments is noteworthy. Personally, I thought it was a exciting update with major hardware improvements, some compelling AI demos and use cases at a similar price point as the past. Top tech reviewers e.g. MKBHD has similar impressions. Mostly just curious as to why there are ~0 positive comments here. I suspect could be: 1) anti-google HN bias - perhaps deserved? 2) it's simp…

> Top tech reviewers e.g. MKBHD

„Top“ in the sense that a lot of people watch them. Please don’t take seriously what they say. Luise Rossman did an excellent video on marques apple propaganda.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by coolg54321 »

chc4 wrote: post #707

I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features. I turn off every AI assistant feature on my existing devices, I actively don't want a phone that ties Gemini and AI photoshop even tighter into it. If Google wanted to actually improve their phones they would add basic software functionality they're still missing instead like, say, a per-app volume mixer that half the 3rd party Android p…

Same for me, I feel all those AI assistants are most of the time hit or miss (even though they improved very much in the recent times) + UX is most of the time not that good because of the network latency.

But on the positive side i like the new 9 pro because of its smaller size + hardware improvements (better ultrawide, ultra sonic finger print sensor, 16GB RAM...)

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by raxxorraxor »

esperent wrote: post #813
oneshtein wrote: post #787

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You see «negative comments» where we see «constructive criticism» and «helpful reviews». It's not a «happy news» site.

> I just hate modern phones, all of them. First sentence of the current top voted comment. What's constructive about that? You could argue the rest of the comment makes up for it, but I don't agree. It reads like a standard negative rant against change to me. I don't see much constructive here. > I just hate modern phones, all of them. I want an adequate one-hand screen size (~6"), a headphone jack, and an even camer…

A release of the 9th model of a phone is not "change", the change lies in the past for devices like this. I believe general statements like this increases the cynicism of those that don't really feel invested in the soft- and hardware landscape of current-day smartphones and there is a lot of reason for that in my opinion.

Essentially get the same product with improvements that are only another iteration. The Pixel 9 might be a good device comparatively, but I would be more surprised if people were too hyped about it. The larger context of hype and Google is relevant here as well.

First question I had when hearing about a Google phone is, if they try to make it harder to block advertising. I don't believe the thought is too unreasonable, is it?

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by ilrwbwrkhv »

raviisoccupied wrote: post #165

It's incredible to me how much worse this web page is than a comparable Apple one. Just from a cursory glance, I've seen some late loading elements, weird and confusing pricing before I've even seen the whole phone, and a weirdly masked and slightly pixelated video.

Google is terrible at both UX and UI. I have said this for a long time that thank god Google search was a simple textarea. If they had done anything else, they would have blown it.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by A_Venom_Roll »

gerash wrote: post #807
chc4 wrote: post #707

I have negative desire to get a phone billing itself around AI and LLM features. I turn off every AI assistant feature on my existing devices, I actively don't want a phone that ties Gemini and AI photoshop even tighter into it. If Google wanted to actually improve their phones they would add basic software functionality they're still missing instead like, say, a per-app volume mixer that half the 3rd party Android p…

I'm with you that AI is overhyped but your suggested feature is "per app volume mixers" like in Windows? What's the use case on a mobile phone to warrant the extra complexity?

An example I can think of is when you're listening to a podcast or music that has been recorded on low volume. Without a volume mixer you're forced to increase the general volume, resulting in overly 'loud' sound notifications from other apps.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by Krasnol »

thebytefairy wrote: post #597
nepger21 wrote: post #578

Google really needs to improve the core offering of what a phone is supposed to provide instead of using half baked AI as a selling point. I have been using Pixel 7 for almost the past 2 years. But the amount of basic core issues are crazy. Recently,since the July update, every place where the phone cannot catch network signal, it shutdowns. And with the update, somehow i feel it cannot catch network signal as strong…

Meanwhile, I'm getting pushed away from iOS when I can't customise basic things and the Phone app (you know, the main use of a phone) takes 30s to open, even after restores.

I like how just in this thread you can see the way marketing leaves a permanent mark on its customers.

Your comment is one of few where people report unrelated problems with their Google Phone. Different versions, different problems, no problems, all kinds of things. Open talk.

You've however brought up an Apple device and the comments under your comment are all Apple customers telling you that you either don't use your device properly since using your phone as a phone is "no longer the primary means of communication" or that it might be your fault (perhaps you have too many contacts in your phone book).

So while problems with the Google device are something normal, problems with the Apple device seem to be something extraordinary.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by peebeebee »

j_timberlake wrote: post #827
peapod91 wrote: post #786

The dominance of the negativity in these comments is noteworthy. Personally, I thought it was a exciting update with major hardware improvements, some compelling AI demos and use cases at a similar price point as the past. Top tech reviewers e.g. MKBHD has similar impressions. Mostly just curious as to why there are ~0 positive comments here. I suspect could be: 1) anti-google HN bias - perhaps deserved? 2) it's simp…

I'm very bullish on genAI, and I bought the new phone, but I really don't think the features shown are that exciting yet. It feels like they're laying the groundwork for more powerful AI to be ready to do things in your phone apps, and the current features are just paving the way. The killer-app (that isn't porn) is going to be asking your phone to order food and it guesses correctly what you want while cross-checkin…

What’s killer about that? I order food once every 2 weeks, I like to browse the different options myself. Almost all the ‘killer’ AI functions are already here: smarter photo retouching, auto-replies, searching, and text summaries with some reading comprehension to ask questions. These things I use daily.

The only thing I’d like is a better integration with ALL actions possible on my phone.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by Krasnol »

raxxorraxor wrote: post #834
esperent wrote: post #813

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I just hate modern phones, all of them. First sentence of the current top voted comment. What's constructive about that? You could argue the rest of the comment makes up for it, but I don't agree. It reads like a standard negative rant against change to me. I don't see much constructive here. > I just hate modern phones, all of them. I want an adequate one-hand screen size (~6"), a headphone jack, and an even camer…

A release of the 9th model of a phone is not "change", the change lies in the past for devices like this. I believe general statements like this increases the cynicism of those that don't really feel invested in the soft- and hardware landscape of current-day smartphones and there is a lot of reason for that in my opinion. Essentially get the same product with improvements that are only another iteration. The Pixel 9…

> The Pixel 9 might be a good device comparatively, but I would be more surprised if people were too hyped about it.

Would you be surprised if a post about the new iPhone would look like this looks here?

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by thegeekpirate »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #717
nepger21 wrote: post #578

Google really needs to improve the core offering of what a phone is supposed to provide instead of using half baked AI as a selling point. I have been using Pixel 7 for almost the past 2 years. But the amount of basic core issues are crazy. Recently,since the July update, every place where the phone cannot catch network signal, it shutdowns. And with the update, somehow i feel it cannot catch network signal as strong…

My Pixel 6 and Pixel 8 have worked remarkably badly as cellular devices. I may well not re-up. The last straw is the aggressive Doze mode. Notifications regularly come in very late, 30+ minutes or more.

Yep, I've had to disable it. Not impressed.

https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/328432356

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