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Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by MaxikCZ »

jocaal wrote: post #8

The creator of this extension also makes DeArrow [1]. It replaces the clickbait thumbnails and titles with less annoying ones. I highly recommend it. [1] https://dearrow.ajay.app/

I stopped using this because I found out that I want that custom thumbnails and tittles as a signal of quality. Many thumbnails will signal which creator made the vid at first glance, where before I sometimes missed video from channel I have involuntary vocal reaction whenever they release a new vid (exurb1a).

Its also very helpfull for determining the quality of the video itself. Usually from that one picture I can tell that even if the video is about a topic I'd like to know more about, I definetly dont want to learn in that specific video. Removing this signal made me waste way more time in videos that seemed good from the tittle alone.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by johnnyanmac »

shiroiushi wrote: post #178
ESTheComposer wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're a HN-er you should know the culture of HN is very old school and fringe mentality. E.g: - Flip phones are celebrated in some threads because people don't want smart phones (extreme minority in real life) - Disabling JS and pushing sites to go back to just raw HTML CSS (with some even not understanding why we need JS, extreme minority irl. IRL site owners care about attracting customers and the things they w…

>IRL people don't, there's a reason piracy is big. It is? That's not my observation. In fact, music piracy seems to be all but dead, thanks to the streaming services. Movie piracy is not, and seems to be increasing (hard to say though), because of people getting frustrated with the fragmentation of streaming; back in Netflix's heyday, it seemed like movie piracy was much smaller, because you could just pay $7/month t…

> Movie piracy is not, and seems to be increasing (hard to say though), because of people getting frustrated with the fragmentation of streaming

I feel that proves the point. When everything is all together for $20 people don't mind. when it's spread out, people are too lazy to sub/unsub to other $20 services as needed to watch content on demand. Someone that's a heavy enough power user to watch that much TV shouldn't mind paying $100+ to keep up. Premium cable was way more expensive and restrictive back in the day.

Meanwhile, all that conversation and none of these streaming services are even profitable. Because giving all your content away for rent isn't financially viable. But it's still too much for lazy consumers. So the entire thing collapses.

>No, most people want convenience. That's why music piracy is basically dead.

It's also why people completely raged when Netflix and GamePass increased prices. There definitely is a breaking point for many (past the ones who complain about every price hike on the internet but stay subscribed).

>Piracy is usually a service problem

Everytime I hear this, I simply need to point to the mobile industry to prove it wrong (or maybe right? Just not the way people think is "fair"). They fixed piracy by doing the classic Web dev action: Keep everything valuable on your server. The APK you pirate is worthless, as it is simply a thin client into their actual value.

We know how the rest ends from there.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by MaxikCZ »

jamesy0ung wrote: post #136
Always42 wrote: post #62

i have been using sponsor block firefox extension for some time. It's incredible. Youtubers I watch (LTT, marcushouse) are typically shilling crap like vpn or those stupid ray bud things. Youtube is not usable without adblocker and annoying without sponsorblock

LTT is not even worth watching, it’s just sponsored crap now disguises as a informational video

I really dont understand how that channel can have so many fans. Makes me humble in realizing I really dont know how people work.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by MaxikCZ »

delta_p_delta_x wrote: post #22

For anyone using an Android phone, the ReVanced[1] patches for the YouTube app (formerly just YouTube Vanced) applies both an adblock and SponsorBlock, on top of various other convenience features. You'll need to provide your own YouTube APK file to patch. I'll never go back to using non-Vanced YouTube ever again. Advertisements are a blight on this world. They are the reason for marketing and sales budgets being qua…

Has the installation gotten easier? Last time I checked I needed to find a speccific version apk of youtube app itself that revanced patcher patches before installing. Too many steps to make way too often.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by ndriscoll »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #198
ndriscoll wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed: https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/what-is-gen-zs-no... > According to a recent report by decision intelligence company Morning Consult, which surveyed over 2,000 adults in the U.S., 57% of Gen Zers said they'd be an influencer if given the opportunity, compared to 41% of adults from all age groups. If true, possibly the most damning rebuttal of UBI proponents that there is.

I don't see how. They are young adults and of course they want to be [flashy job]. Some may do it out of passion, some will inevitably realize the platform exploits them and moves on so they can have stability, or pay rent. Trust me, I'm a game dev, the 2000's version of this, succeeded by the band musicians of the 90's/80's. UBI would bring out more passionate people and not force the passionate but disheartened to…

Because they're saying if they could sustain themselves, they'd have their job be to... eat at restaurants, play video games, travel, try on clothes, wear makeup, etc. Basically be an exact conservative caricature of socialists.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by sundarurfriend »

chankstein38 wrote: post #75
noone_youknow wrote: post #16

As a YouTuber, I’m conflicted about this. My main channel (non-tech) is small, but is monetised, and YouTube see fit to throw me a _very_ variable amount of money every month. CPMs are down right now so revenue has tanked along with it, it’ll pick back up at some point, but the variability is itself the pain point. My videos are relatively expensive and time consuming to make, but people seem to find them useful, and…

The thing that sucks is I pay for YouTube Premium to remove ads then youtubers always have sponsored segments. It makes my $20/mo useless because I'm spending time watching ads still. I don't have a solution I'm just stating my perspective on it. That said, SponsorBlock has been around for years. I've been using it for as long as I can remember. Basically any decent-sized channel's videos already have the sponsored s…

> That said, SponsorBlock has been around for years. I've been using it for as long as I can remember. Basically any decent-sized channel's videos already have the sponsored segment skipped. I'm not sure why someone just posted it but we're well beyond SponsorBlock "taking off".

I was gonna post a similar comment but with the opposite conclusion: SponsorBlock has been around for years, and the people who are really annoyed by sponsors are mostly already using it. Most of the rest of the population either doesn't mind sponsor segments (me) or isn't willing to go to the trouble of installing addons. Of course, there's always going to be people who become aware of it due to threads like this and start using it, but I'd venture that that's too small a number for worries about this suddenly "taking off".

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by johnnyanmac »

wruza wrote: post #64

Please if you report segments, use a correct type! I’ve seen enough segments to be marked as ads when they are self-promotion and self-promotion when they are barely promotion and more like further exploration info.

It's pretty inevitable when you have stuff like this that "ads" devolves into "the boring parts". It's all volunteer driven and there's way too many videos to moderate, so it is what it is.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by johnnyanmac »

nerdjon wrote: post #4

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> Unless blocking ads has nothing to do with privacy and is just an annoyance with ads...

there were some comments in another post that went so far as to want all advertising banned. So for some people it truly is just "skip all annoyances, consume for free". And I see takes in this thread about how apparently everyone should be making videos as a passion/hobby.

It's either brash overrreactions, naivete on societal structures, or simply being stuck in a tech bubble (where our labor only indirectly produces value, compared to the visualizations or art or other content leveraged by tech. Hence why many can give it away).

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by throw10920 »

braden-lk wrote: post #189
throw10920 wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's capitalism. That's an utterly meaningless statement. You haven't even defined "capitalism", let alone what it means for something to "be" capitalism. This is political dog-whistling, the opposite of any rational argument. > The Uber app was a straightforward experience, until they started loading it up with ads and tip screens. Paid Hulu and Netflix tiers have ads too, when previously they didn't. This is in…

LegendKeeper will never have ad placements because of how ugly they are. Personally I wouldn’t be able to tolerate an ad messing up the flow of our designs and user focus, lol. Idk how others do it; we also never relied on ads in the first place so maybe that makes it easier. (LegendKeeper mentioned!! 8))

LOL, it's awesome to see a LegendKeeper dev here! I don't TTRPG but I have a friend who does and is using your tool.

I love the UI, did you model it off Notion?

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by johnnyanmac »

throw10920 wrote: post #181
rchaud wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> First, it can be unproductively applied to any monetization system - you can always say that the temptation will still exist to double-dip. That's capitalism. The Uber app was a straightforward experience, until they started loading it up with ads and tip screens. Paid Hulu and Netflix tiers have ads too, when previously they didn't. If that's a "terrible argument", there should be numerous counterexamples of compa…

> That's capitalism. That's an utterly meaningless statement. You haven't even defined "capitalism", let alone what it means for something to "be" capitalism. This is political dog-whistling, the opposite of any rational argument. > The Uber app was a straightforward experience, until they started loading it up with ads and tip screens. Paid Hulu and Netflix tiers have ads too, when previously they didn't. This is in…

>there are numerous counterexamples of companies that charge consumers directly without double-dipping - Google One, Dropbox, Remember the Milk, World of Warcraft, LegendKeeper, ChatGPT, most video games, Notion, Slack, etc.

That's really your best list?

- Google constnatly double dips. They were cuaght not too long ago scanning Drive folders for potential Gemini use. Slack just had this discussion as well.

- WOW charges subscriptions and for cosmetics in game. That's how more and more video games are trying to recoup costs. DLC, microtransactions, battle passes, NFTs, etc. You can avoid most of that if you're indie, but that's the AAA market.

- ChatGPT is in market capture mode right now in a very hot market. It's going to pull a google in 5-10 years if it's still dominant. I would bet my bottom dollar on that one.

>there are specific examples of companies moving away from ad-supported models to paid subscription models (without keeping ads)

And they are double dipping on their own services by selling to AI to train their data. It won't be ads for you today. It probably will be tomorrow. If the goal is to minimize annoyance, this is honestly worse than double charging.

We're doomed without a fundamental shift in how society consumes content.

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