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Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by stavros »

Joe_Cool wrote: post #96
stavros wrote: post #68

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That sounds useful, thanks! Odd that it's not on any of the stores (eg F-droid).

It is in the Izzyondroid repo: https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/org.polymorphicshad... I can also highly recommend the app sponsored by Louis Rossmann: Grayjay. It can do everything that Tubular does and much, much more. It also uses a plugin architecture so you don't have to wait for an update of the app when Youtube blocks it again. https://grayjay.app/ It's also on the Play Store but without any plugins du…

Thank you! I've added the repo and will look at Grayjay now.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by ndriscoll »

godelski wrote: post #169
ndriscoll wrote: post #162

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I don't understand this sentiment. Are you buying a product with a tracking code? If not, it's not supporting anyone, and watching a recording of a sales pitch you're not interested in is just wasting your time.

> Are you buying a product with a tracking code? If not, it's not supporting anyone Not all ads are equal. Most ad segments are performed with a direct transaction: advertiser hands YouTuber money, YouTuber puts ad in their content. There may be additional parts of the deal such as tracking codes, but that's not how it works. The YouTuber gets the ad money, even if the video is not watched. Though that does not mean…

If you're not interested in the advertisement, then you're creating a less efficient market by signaling that you are. So you ought to skip past it or block it in that case. And if you're not interested in any advertisements, the market is more efficient when you block them all. Or just run adnausium if you're basically just trying to help creators scam advertisers.

Remember in all advertising funded models that you are always the product. The market is for "high quality" (i.e. profitable) viewers, not high quality videos.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by paulryanrogers »

ndriscoll wrote: post #172
godelski wrote: post #169

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> Are you buying a product with a tracking code? If not, it's not supporting anyone Not all ads are equal. Most ad segments are performed with a direct transaction: advertiser hands YouTuber money, YouTuber puts ad in their content. There may be additional parts of the deal such as tracking codes, but that's not how it works. The YouTuber gets the ad money, even if the video is not watched. Though that does not mean…

If you're not interested in the advertisement, then you're creating a less efficient market by signaling that you are. So you ought to skip past it or block it in that case. And if you're not interested in any advertisements, the market is more efficient when you block them all. Or just run adnausium if you're basically just trying to help creators scam advertisers. Remember in all advertising funded models that you…

Adnausium isn't making the market more efficient. It's wasting everyone's time and bandwidth.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by loongloong »

chankstein38 wrote: post #75
noone_youknow wrote: post #16

As a YouTuber, I’m conflicted about this. My main channel (non-tech) is small, but is monetised, and YouTube see fit to throw me a _very_ variable amount of money every month. CPMs are down right now so revenue has tanked along with it, it’ll pick back up at some point, but the variability is itself the pain point. My videos are relatively expensive and time consuming to make, but people seem to find them useful, and…

The thing that sucks is I pay for YouTube Premium to remove ads then youtubers always have sponsored segments. It makes my $20/mo useless because I'm spending time watching ads still. I don't have a solution I'm just stating my perspective on it. That said, SponsorBlock has been around for years. I've been using it for as long as I can remember. Basically any decent-sized channel's videos already have the sponsored s…

If your creators are also on Nebula ( https://nebula.tv , no affiliation other than being a former user) it may be worth considering.

The various creators I used to follow on Nebula have no ads at all in the videos published in Nebula, compared to those they post on Youtube. Not sure if its applicable for all creators on Nebula though.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by ndriscoll »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #175
ndriscoll wrote: post #172

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If you're not interested in the advertisement, then you're creating a less efficient market by signaling that you are. So you ought to skip past it or block it in that case. And if you're not interested in any advertisements, the market is more efficient when you block them all. Or just run adnausium if you're basically just trying to help creators scam advertisers. Remember in all advertising funded models that you…

Adnausium isn't making the market more efficient. It's wasting everyone's time and bandwidth.

Right, I said run it if you want to help creators scam advertisers. That's more or less what you're going for if you're not interested in something, but you believe your "I watched the ad" signal helps the creator negotiate with advertisers.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by shiroiushi »

ESTheComposer wrote: post #72
ndriscoll wrote: post #59

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Why? As a HN-er/content creator, I don't see why it would be taken for granted that people need to be paid for their hobbies. In fact many people post online for enjoyment.

If you're a HN-er you should know the culture of HN is very old school and fringe mentality. E.g: - Flip phones are celebrated in some threads because people don't want smart phones (extreme minority in real life) - Disabling JS and pushing sites to go back to just raw HTML CSS (with some even not understanding why we need JS, extreme minority irl. IRL site owners care about attracting customers and the things they w…

>IRL people don't, there's a reason piracy is big.

It is? That's not my observation. In fact, music piracy seems to be all but dead, thanks to the streaming services. Movie piracy is not, and seems to be increasing (hard to say though), because of people getting frustrated with the fragmentation of streaming; back in Netflix's heyday, it seemed like movie piracy was much smaller, because you could just pay $7/month to Netflix and watch whatever you wanted.

>People want the things they want for the cheapest cost possible

No, most people want convenience. That's why music piracy is basically dead. Piracy is usually a PITA, and it's easy to subscribe to Spotify or Apple Music and listen to everything you want. Piracy is usually a service problem, not an economics problem.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by gosub100 »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #161
gosub100 wrote: post #135

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> It's gotten twice as expensive, which is insane by itself. No. Look, I'm not happy to pay more, but YT is really great. It's completely obviated the need to watch broadcast or cable TV for me (yes I know, sports...). They haven't enshittified it at all, and since I'm a music lover, I love that they include YT music (although I sorely miss its predecessor). There is the sum-of-human-knowledge and then some !! on you…

>They haven't enshittified it at all really? There are entire posts dedicated to how many features Youtube cut removed, or messed up over the years. as a old school forum boomer I still hate that they changed from a nested comments section to "twitter feed of loose chains" over a decade ago. I won't go on a whole rant on every little feature, but the service has definitely gotten worse. It just so happens that the te…

Cutting or removing features!= enshittification. To me that word means contracts with early cancellation fees, charging more for long form or educational content, pop-ups, rate limiting ( you get 10 vids per day on your free plan), charging to upload, billing authors for bandwidth used, and so on. I don't think you realize how good we have it.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by wanderingmind »

anotherhue wrote: post #58
wanderingmind wrote: post #49

Sponsorblock is not as blunt a tool as people make it here. You can only block specific type of ads and you can whitelist whole channels which I do for some niche channels I subscribe to. In Android, I use Tubular [1], the NewPipe fork that integrates Sponsorblock and ReturnYoutube Dislike. My only additional request in this awesome app is if we can download the video after snipping out the sponsor block sections. [1…

yt-dlp has a sponsorblock integration that removes the segments from the downloaded file.

Yes I use it in Desktop/laptops, but integrating it in Android through termux was a pain. I recently found out about [Seal](https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.junkfood.seal/) which seems to provide a front end for yt-dlp in Android. Might try this out soon.
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