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Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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The Zenfone 10 traded height for depth. It was very thick.

That's 100% fine. I've never cared how thick my phone is in the least.

If you rotate the phone backwards 90°, you can reach all corners but the depth will be like 7"

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Google really needs to improve the core offering of what a phone is supposed to provide instead of using half baked AI as a selling point. I have been using Pixel 7 for almost the past 2 years. But the amount of basic core issues are crazy. Recently,since the July update, every place where the phone cannot catch network signal, it shutdowns. And with the update, somehow i feel it cannot catch network signal as strong…

Research: consumers are turned off by AI in marketing because it's a vague term that makes no promises about features or usefulness

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Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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For years, Google has been promising me a high-performance voice assistant. I find that in 2024 it still can't understand "call mom" and "call my wife's name" unless I'm in a perfectly silent environment. And it usually takes several tries. I'm not going to get carried away with technical announcements.

Telling my Pixel 8's assistant to "set an alarm for 10 minutes" fails when it's not connected to the internet (after spinning for a few seconds.) That's crazy to me. I thought offline voice for basic things was working back in the Nexus days. I travel a lot and often find myself in areas with poor or no connectivity, and things "get a little freaky" in those scenarios. Even things like Google Maps (which has download…

Siri seems to be better at the voice recognition in my experience but it has these crazy bugs where I see it perfectly transcribe the text, and then un-correct it into something completely different. Piping the raw text into a 90s Perl script would be better, and it amazes me that the same team can do on-device transcription so much better.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Google really needs to improve the core offering of what a phone is supposed to provide instead of using half baked AI as a selling point. I have been using Pixel 7 for almost the past 2 years. But the amount of basic core issues are crazy. Recently,since the July update, every place where the phone cannot catch network signal, it shutdowns. And with the update, somehow i feel it cannot catch network signal as strong…

I've had a similar sentiments with Google hardware and nearly every device I've purchased, including several generations of phones and a Google Home Hub, had to be returned at least once. This has left me with a less-than-favorable impression of Google's hardware quality. Given that I don't see much need for premium phones these days (I don't play games on my phone and am unsure about the value of AI editing features), I'm inclined to wait and explore midrange alternatives as they become available. (and not going for iPhone myself...)

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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The keynote seems to only focus on the Pixel 9 software capabilities. Honestly, why is this important? Aside from all the AI hype, I don't see why the event should be so focused on features that are purely software updates that will most likely propagate to other non Pixel devices. It's just a bummer that the event focused so much on the AI features instead of the HW capabilities: probably they don't have much to sho…

It's happening because nobody cares about phone hardware anymore. The iPhone 15 became a bit of a meme because of how similar it was to the 13 as it pertains to most people's use cases.

Phones are like laptops now, most phones regardless of make or model will do what you need it to.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Pixel 9 also says satellite emergency support ("Satellite SOS"). Search for info gets you to https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/15254448?hl=en&... It looks like it's coming "later this year". Lots of chatter about it, see a few details at https://www.androidauthority.com/pixel-9-satellite-sos-34676... * apparently coming with android 15, but they are shipping android 14 * turning on satellite sos later, but…

TBF that’s what Apple did, basically. It wasn’t in the initial release. Needed a software update 2 months later or so. You were only supposed to get 1 year (?) of service. But they extended that by a year. Because of that everyone with a qualifying phone is still in the “free” stage so we still don’t know what it will cost. Or when that will start. If ever. I’ve never used it but I like that my iPhone has it. I would…

I just used iMessage via satellite on the iOS public beta this past weekend. I forgot it even existed. The phone prompted me to update my location for "Find My" via Satellite, which I've done before. So I accepted, and got a screen that gave me the option of sending iMessage via satellite to. Sent one to a friend as a test. It's a pretty cool UI. It shows "Satellite" as the message type when writing messages, as you might see "SMS" or "iMessage" or "RCS". And then when you're in iMessage and connected, the dynamic island shows a green indicator. When not connected, the dynamic island is larger and shows you which way to turn to reconnect to satellite; presumably if you want to see if there are replies to your message, or whatever.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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I'm surprised that no media outlet is seriously talking about its on-device inference capability, which is the biggest next thing for LLM. Apple did a better job on its PR here, but they didn't also get all the attention that it deserves. On-device inference improves not just its latency, this also removes a huge chunk of LLM's economical constraints from software companies. The biggest advantage of software is its m…

They don't say it explicitly that it's running LLM on phone. Built in Gemini could just mean pre installed and configured app that works with a connection.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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What's the selling points here for upgrades? Comparing my five year old A50, I'm not seeing it. Presumably a better camera, and more RAM (why?). I felt compelled to upgrade in past years, but I feel like phone tech reached a plateau. The AI features, front and center, feel like hype. Haven't found them useful at all.

Wikipedia tells me the Galaxy A50 got its last security update in February of last year, FWIW.

My wisdom tells me the more security releases, the more unsecure a piece of software was.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Wikipedia tells me the Galaxy A50 got its last security update in February of last year, FWIW.

But its Google Play Services (which includes WebView) + Chrome all receive regular updates independently. People put a lot more weight on the Android security updates than they perhaps should. Unless you're installing random crap, there are very few OS vulnerabilities that you need to be concerned about if you have an up-to-date browser. Things like StageFright are very uncommon (and I can't find evidence of that act…

There's a limit to that. Kernel/middleware updates see a steady flow of security patches on basically all devices. It's true that real world exploits tend to involve some bug higher up the stack (in still-updatable software, e.g. apps or the services layer), or at the very least to be susceptible to workaround fixes there. But nothing is perfect and relying on an out-of-service device is IMHO pretty questionable.
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