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Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by swozey »

mym1990 wrote: post #10
bamboozled wrote: post #6

It's strange how there is almost never a shortcut to anything. Like a universal law. So now you might get free weight loss without making any effort at all, but you'll also look older in the process? I have to say, my father has been taking it, and I noticed that he does look older all of a sudden...and his weight loss also plateaued. I thought it was just my imagination, but maybe not.

I have heard that people who lose weight quickly will typically look older due to the development of wrinkles and the development of harder features. Skin simply doesn't have time to keep up with the weight loss. I don't know if this is true but the theory could have some merit as far as our perception of people. The real question is: does something like ozempic change the biological age of someone?

You're going to need to include a weight percentage drop or something. I've wrestled/jiujitsued my entire life and we go up and down weight constantly, 2-30lb swings. We'll water + electrolyte fast for a week or two if we have to and drop 10-20lbs.

We all look 10-15 years younger than we are (35-45s).

But we're also not dropping 150-200lbs or whatever number you're potentially referring to to where skin would stretch. But prolonged, constant rapid dropping hasn't bothered our skin. I'm complimented all the time on mine.

https://old.reddit.com/r/wrestling/comments/2r9nwy/whats_the...

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by readthenotes1 »

cm2187 wrote: post #33

And if that's true, what is the conclusion? Stay obese to have a beautiful skin (and deal with the associated health effects)?

You remind me of a quote from a book whose name I can't remember:

She had the unwrinkled face of a woman who had never been calorically challenged.

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by anakaine »

cm2187 wrote: post #24
bamboozled wrote: post #6

It's strange how there is almost never a shortcut to anything. Like a universal law. So now you might get free weight loss without making any effort at all, but you'll also look older in the process? I have to say, my father has been taking it, and I noticed that he does look older all of a sudden...and his weight loss also plateaued. I thought it was just my imagination, but maybe not.

What kind of effort are you talking about? Weight loss has very little to do with exercise and mostly to do with how much you eat. Those drugs allow you to combat the carving when you restrict food. Is fighting the carving the "effort" you think people ought to make?

This, and there's seems to be a number of people with a misconception that getting medical assistance is either cheating, or you're not trying hard enough.

As someone who is quite strong and fit, but has a family history of obesity, and who has been packing on the kilos into their 40s - I've recently started with ozempic and it's a breakthrough drug. The incessant never ending demand to eat, that voice which never goes away and pervades every part of the day and task, the call which is almost impossible to ignore ore even after months of dieting and managing macros - it got moderated down from a 10/10 volume to about a 2/10 volume. I've started dropping the gut fat, and 6 weeks in my energy is coming back up to levels it was at 10 years ago.

I'm hoping that this isnt a permanent solution, but that it permits me to reset my bodies relationship with food, insulin, fat accumulation and hunger signals in the long term as the signalling cells senesce, the fat is reduced and demands less maintenance, etc.

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by Faaak »

lagichikool wrote: post #36
digbybk wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coffee being the only exception.

Even coffee is without its downsides and risks. There are cardiovascular risks, acid reflux, sleep issues, and probably more.

I though GERD was not caused by coffee [1]: "Drinking coffee or tea and adding milk or sugar was not associated with reflux symptoms or EE"

[1]: https://journals.lww.com/tcmj/_layouts/15/oaks.journals/down...

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by metadat »

throwup238 wrote: post #37
metadat wrote: post #31

Was this article written by an LLM? I had to scroll so far to get to the core content it kept promising, it's like it wasn't written for human consumption. Ultimately this article is kind of a FUD nothing-burger. People's skin behaves the same anytime there is rapid weight loss.

> These are changes he hasn’t noticed in patients who have lost significant weight in other ways—like through diet or gastric bypass surgery—which makes him think it’s unique to GLP-1 usage.

TFA contains mixed messaging. The part you quoted is discussing face skin, then later, also talking about face skin:

> (“We see a similar pattern in other causes of rapid weight loss, including gastric bypass surgery, he says.) In some cases, the loss of subcutaneous fat is significant enough that it impacts a patients’ ability to get injectables ..

So which is it?

My takeaway was that losing weight fast == problematic.

The article dials up the FUD factor to the max, which makes me question the quality of reporting and any intent to accurately inform vs. just get clicks.

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by Aperocky »

cm2187 wrote: post #24
bamboozled wrote: post #6

It's strange how there is almost never a shortcut to anything. Like a universal law. So now you might get free weight loss without making any effort at all, but you'll also look older in the process? I have to say, my father has been taking it, and I noticed that he does look older all of a sudden...and his weight loss also plateaued. I thought it was just my imagination, but maybe not.

What kind of effort are you talking about? Weight loss has very little to do with exercise and mostly to do with how much you eat. Those drugs allow you to combat the carving when you restrict food. Is fighting the carving the "effort" you think people ought to make?

> Weight loss has very little to do with exercise and mostly to do with how much you eat.

That's not an accurate statement. Over the past year I have averaged 2 hours of aerobics per day (~1500 active CAL). And I've simply buffeted my way eating multiple portions per day and haven't gained any weight.

It have a lot to do with a lot of exercises - it has little to do if you just had little exercise. It's all about the caloric balance, and it takes a lot of exercise to skew that balance while it's a lot easier to eat more.

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

metadat wrote: post #31

Was this article written by an LLM? I had to scroll so far to get to the core content it kept promising, it's like it wasn't written for human consumption. Ultimately this article is kind of a FUD nothing-burger. People's skin behaves the same anytime there is rapid weight loss.

I've got no dog in this fight, but the article explicitly says this is different from the normal effects of rapid weight loss on skin.

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by pnw »

cbanek wrote: post #30
Loughla wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the side effects from that medicine?

There's a few, but they are all pretty minor. It doesn't mix well with water (rash), so make sure to put it on right before you go to sleep. It can increase sun sensitivity of your skin, making it easier to have sun burn or additional sun damage, so again, put it on before bed. It can sometimes cause breakouts especially when you start using it, including a red bumpy rash. But after a few weeks, your skin typically a…

FWIW, Adapalene (sold OTC as Differin) is a third generation retinoid that is less irritating than the original formulations.
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