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Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by sctb » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 10:16 PM UTC

Loughla wrote: post #8

cbanek wrote: post #2

I wonder if using something like Retinol, which is proven to improve skin and make it look tighter, younger, and get rid of blemishes, marks, and sun damage, could be paired with Ozempic to keep skin more healthy along with a good skin routine?

What are the side effects from that medicine?

They're minimal; retinol is usually mixed with a carrier oil or cream in various concentrations and applied topically. I would be surprised if it has an impact on the superficial musculoaponeurotic system (SMAS) referred to in the article, however.

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by exabrial » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 10:18 PM UTC

here’s my casual armchair analysis about some thing I know nothing about: Is this correlation instead of causation? I mean, if you’re dumping pounds rapidly and then your skin is all been stretched out…

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by bananapub » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 10:19 PM UTC

bamboozled wrote: post #6

It's strange how there is almost never a shortcut to anything. Like a universal law. So now you might get free weight loss without making any effort at all, but you'll also look older in the process? I have to say, my father has been taking it, and I noticed that he does look older all of a sudden...and his weight loss also plateaued. I thought it was just my imagination, but maybe not.

seems pretty unsurprising to me that when you shift the equilibrium of some extremely complicated system that evolved over an extremely long time to improve some metric, that the side effects are mostly moving down some other metric you liked.

or even more boringly: almost only bad things get called side effects rather than being redefined into the benefits

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by cm2187 » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 10:19 PM UTC

bamboozled wrote: post #6

It's strange how there is almost never a shortcut to anything. Like a universal law. So now you might get free weight loss without making any effort at all, but you'll also look older in the process? I have to say, my father has been taking it, and I noticed that he does look older all of a sudden...and his weight loss also plateaued. I thought it was just my imagination, but maybe not.

What kind of effort are you talking about? Weight loss has very little to do with exercise and mostly to do with how much you eat. Those drugs allow you to combat the carving when you restrict food. Is fighting the carving the "effort" you think people ought to make?

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by __MatrixMan__ » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 10:19 PM UTC

cbanek wrote: post #2

I wonder if using something like Retinol, which is proven to improve skin and make it look tighter, younger, and get rid of blemishes, marks, and sun damage, could be paired with Ozempic to keep skin more healthy along with a good skin routine?

I don't know much about skin care, but given that Ozempic has side effects that affect the retina, it wouldn't be crazy to get plenty of vitamin A if you're taking it.

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by goodJobWalrus » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 10:20 PM UTC

armchairhacker wrote: post #13

bamboozled wrote: post #6

It's strange how there is almost never a shortcut to anything. Like a universal law. So now you might get free weight loss without making any effort at all, but you'll also look older in the process? I have to say, my father has been taking it, and I noticed that he does look older all of a sudden...and his weight loss also plateaued. I thought it was just my imagination, but maybe not.

What about people who are naturally thin?

I see older very skinny women who look old and frail due to being very skinny. You need some fat under that skin to plump it up to look youthful. Catherine Deneuve I believe was the one that said that after the age of 40 you have to chose between your face and your ass. I say all of this as a 40 something woman.

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by dark-star » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 10:20 PM UTC

A quick explanation about what Ozempic is would be helpful in this case. Not every country uses the same name for their drugs and the brand names are often very different

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by xlbuttplug2 » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 10:20 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #12

bamboozled wrote: post #6

It's strange how there is almost never a shortcut to anything. Like a universal law. So now you might get free weight loss without making any effort at all, but you'll also look older in the process? I have to say, my father has been taking it, and I noticed that he does look older all of a sudden...and his weight loss also plateaued. I thought it was just my imagination, but maybe not.

> strange how there is almost never a shortcut to anything. Like a universal law There are win-win tradeoffs. Vitamins, for instance. If you're running a vitamin deficiency, there isn't a downside to increasing your intake of that vitamin. (Curing acute dehydration via IV is another shortcut that just works.) The Ozempic story, for me, has been more about how we almost seem to be reflexively against the idea of a win…

But gluttony is a sin!

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by mbrumlow » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 10:21 PM UTC

xlbuttplug2 wrote: post #28

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> strange how there is almost never a shortcut to anything. Like a universal law There are win-win tradeoffs. Vitamins, for instance. If you're running a vitamin deficiency, there isn't a downside to increasing your intake of that vitamin. (Curing acute dehydration via IV is another shortcut that just works.) The Ozempic story, for me, has been more about how we almost seem to be reflexively against the idea of a win…

But gluttony is a sin!

I thought everybody was saying Gluten was bad...

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by cbanek » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 10:22 PM UTC

Loughla wrote: post #8

cbanek wrote: post #2

I wonder if using something like Retinol, which is proven to improve skin and make it look tighter, younger, and get rid of blemishes, marks, and sun damage, could be paired with Ozempic to keep skin more healthy along with a good skin routine?

What are the side effects from that medicine?

There's a few, but they are all pretty minor. It doesn't mix well with water (rash), so make sure to put it on right before you go to sleep. It can increase sun sensitivity of your skin, making it easier to have sun burn or additional sun damage, so again, put it on before bed. It can sometimes cause breakouts especially when you start using it, including a red bumpy rash. But after a few weeks, your skin typically adapts to it and the rash goes away.

The tricky part is there's all sorts of people that sell Retinol products but the amount of retinol is OTC. This isn't typically good enough, but you can go to your dermatologist to get a prescription strength that really works, and it's cheap.