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Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by denysvitali »

fidotron wrote: post #373

I don’t know how anyone could possibly trust a premium product from Google, regardless of how good the specs are. Their entire approach to QA and privacy is anti-premium. When Google bought HTC the idea was the best of Google software and the best of HTC hardware, but we have Google level hardware and HTC level software. The glory days of the HTC One were a decade ago.

Reminds me of an issue I had with the Nexus 6P: when I wanted to get it fixed (I think it was an issue with the ambiental microphone) Huawei said it was a software issue and Google said it was a HW issue.

In the end, none of the two companies fixed the problem, and my 6P eventually died randomly one day.

So, this Google software and X hardware story is very similar to yours w/ HTC, except that if they don't buy the company it's better for them as they can just throw the problem over the fence to the other company. What a clown show

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by SamBam »

Beretta_Vexee wrote: post #514
summerlight wrote: post #484

I'm surprised that no media outlet is seriously talking about its on-device inference capability, which is the biggest next thing for LLM. Apple did a better job on its PR here, but they didn't also get all the attention that it deserves. On-device inference improves not just its latency, this also removes a huge chunk of LLM's economical constraints from software companies. The biggest advantage of software is its m…

For years, Google has been promising me a high-performance voice assistant. I find that in 2024 it still can't understand "call mom" and "call my wife's name" unless I'm in a perfectly silent environment. And it usually takes several tries. I'm not going to get carried away with technical announcements.

Yeah, I think the LLM for everything crazy is stupid, but I do wish there were a little more of it in the Google Assistant. Then I could finally say "Text Bob 'Home in 5'" and not have it reply "Sorry, I don't have a 'Home' number for Bob."

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by xlbuttplug2 »

sergiotapia wrote: post #11

Call summary is such a good feature. How many times has your wife snapped her fingers for you to jot something down when she's on the phone with the pediatrician? you go crazy looking for a pen or something This is why I love my pixel. They build stuff that affects my life day to day. My biggest vote of confidence: since buying my wife a pixel, I've had zero tech support requests. it really just works.

According to the keynote, it notifies the other party that you're using it, which makes sense, but also makes things awkward.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by kweingar »

renewiltord wrote: post #75
singhrac wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mostly agree, but partially because I can't tell (even though I'm paying $20/month) what tier of Gemini I am getting. I know most people won't care, but because they won't tell me, I will assume I'm getting Gemini Flash from 6 months ago, and I'm not paying $20/month for that. I'm sure if they were honest about the model people wouldn't pay for it. They're making the mistake of optimizing for general case users (wh…

I have Gemini Advanced but I can't tell which model it is, yeah. Same problem. Whatever it is, it's useless. GPT-2 level. Can't do anything reasonable. Claude 3.5 Sonnet and ChatGPT-4o are roughly the same with the former pipping it for me and then out there is this shitty Google product that is worse than Llama-3 running on my own laptop. Even Llama-3 is better at remembering what's going on. Fortunately, this time…

> GPT-2 level

You must not have ever used GPT-2 if you think it is comparable to any commonly used chatbot today

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by ClassyJacket »

appel wrote: post #71
jsheard wrote: post #29

There's also the obligatory non-Pro model, and a refresh of the Pixel Fold: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_9 https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_9_pro_fold Usually the Pro is bigger than the non-Pro but this time they're exactly the same size, and they've added a bigger Pro XL variant. https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Pixel-9,Google... The Pro and Pro XL appear to have identical specs as…

I'm glad they finally went this route. I can't be the only one who usually wants the specs of the Pro but always opts for the smallest phone (p1, p3, p5 & now p8).

Same. I wish you could get a Galaxy S Ultra, with the stylus in a smaller size.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by scottlamb »

appel wrote: post #104

Google's trade-in estimates for the P9 Pro: Pixel Fold (256/512): $760 Pixel 8 Pro (128/256/512/1TB): $699 Pixel 8 (128/256): $490 Pixel 7a: $300 Pixel 7 Pro (128/256/512): $540 Pixel 7 (128/256): $360 Edit: there's a complete overview of all trade in estimates in this post: https://slickdeals.net/f/17689866-buy-pixel-9-pro-or-pixel-9...

Not bad, really. My Pixel 6 was being flaky a month ago (not playing sounds reliably), and I needed to fix it right then, so I bought a Pixel 8 from Best Buy for $549+tax and got $220+tax back (described as $70 valued price + $150 promotional) for trading in my Pixel 6. If you consider the $70 as the true value of my flaky Pixel 6, you could say I only paid $399 (plus tax) for the Pixel 8, and now Google's offering me $490 for it if I buy a Pixel 9.

Even so I'm not sure the Pixel 8 -> Pixel 9 upgrade is worth $799 - $490 = $309 (plus tax) to me when the Pixel 8 is brand new and working well.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by lynndotpy »

fsckboy wrote: post #461
SushiHippie wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I only bought a Pixel because of GrapheneOS. I think I've never had this few issues with a phone. (I only had Samsung phones before this) It feels even better than the Android that the Pixels ship with, I used it for a day before I flashed GrapheneOS, and I can completely understand why one would not buy a Pixel again if they only experienced the Stock OS.

I'm always interested in trying things like that, but I'm not that into playing some sort of "jailbreak cat and mouse" over time. If I install GrapheneOS, is it automatic after that for security updates and whatnot, or do I have to do some weird two-hands-three-fingers reboot and manually download, etc?

Speaking as a Calyx user since 2020, the install experience was a bit finnicky, and it required no ongoing manual maintenance. My understanding is the web installer is pretty easy now though.

One caveat: Unlocking the bootloader deletes the disk. This is a reasonable security measure, but it means you don't want to use the phone for anything important before installing Graphene.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by afavour »

Sebguer wrote: post #378
appel wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad they finally went this route. I can't be the only one who usually wants the specs of the Pro but always opts for the smallest phone (p1, p3, p5 & now p8).

The funny thing is the Fold is actually the smallest phone by height, and the thickness change isn't as big as you'd think...

The price change, on the other hand…

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by jascination »

scottyah wrote: post #607

I fell for the Google Home, and it has gotten significantly worse over time. My only hypothesis is they found ways to reduce the cost of running the server-side, and it does not benefit the consumer. My Consumer Report: Do not fall for hardware backed by software that costs the seller money to keep running.

Same, I have nest cameras and nest wifi (now discontinued 2 years later, so can't buy compatible wifi points anymore). Software + Google voice assistant is so goddamn buggy!

Wish I went with a TP-Link solution instead

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