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There's also the obligatory non-Pro model, and a refresh of the Pixel Fold: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_9 https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_9_pro_fold Usually the Pro is bigger than the non-Pro but this time they're exactly the same size, and they've added a bigger Pro XL variant. https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Pixel-9,Google... The Pro and Pro XL appear to have identical specs as…

Would have been nice if they did a regular size (5.8”) for normal people and 6.8” for the genetic freaks with dinner plate hands. 6.3” is still huge. 5.8” is workable. And it’s not like there’s no precedent, the Zenfone 10 is also 5.8” and is adored for it.

Small display sizes used to mean "cheap phone" for so long that people still won't pay more money for a smaller device.

Not for lack of trying, since both Apple and Samsung tried in 2019 with their mini iPhones and Galaxy S10e respectively which were both smaller versions of their normal phones. Neither line continues today.

Apple has some precedent with their premium iPad Mini which costs more than their normal iPad and gets irregularly updated, but it might be hard to market an "iPhone Mini SE Pro".

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For years, Google has been promising me a high-performance voice assistant. I find that in 2024 it still can't understand "call mom" and "call my wife's name" unless I'm in a perfectly silent environment. And it usually takes several tries. I'm not going to get carried away with technical announcements.

What's even worse for me is that it regularly "forgets" how to respond to queries that it could serve perfectly well before, especially related to smart home things. "Play on living room stereo" has been hit and miss for my parents to the point where I regret setting them up with a Chromecast-supporting AV receiver and Google Nest speaker. They now just use the regular remote and listen to the station via FM.

If you're unlucky enough to be bilingual, it's a complet joke. It's a real shame, because it makes this function useless for the people who need it most, those who can't type easily on a phone (visual challenges), or have difficulty transcribing names in a foreign language.

It could help millions of elderly people stay independent a little longer. But no instead, they were trying to sell us generative AI and photo filter.

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It’s total trash AI. I keep forgetting to unsubscribe. Can’t do anything.

In the Google Pixel 2024 Keynote, one of the presenters, Dave Citron, had to try three times to get Gemini to perform the preapproved, practiced demonstration task - 33.3% success rate for something that Google KNOWS will work. see https://www.youtube.com/live/N_y2tP9of8A?t=1692

Most of the demo fails they had during today's keynote felt more like beta supporting software and bad network kinds of failures. The only failure I saw that felt more like a generative AI-level failure was one of the hot air balloon image gens they tried which generated a circle of garbage in the sky; which was one variation presented among five or six which the AI spat out in seconds.

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Would have been nice if they did a regular size (5.8”) for normal people and 6.8” for the genetic freaks with dinner plate hands. 6.3” is still huge. 5.8” is workable. And it’s not like there’s no precedent, the Zenfone 10 is also 5.8” and is adored for it.

I long for the days of being able to reach all four corners of my phone screen with one thumb. I had an iPhone 12 mini which was a wonderful respite, but apparently us small phone fans are a small enough demographic to not warrant serving. What's extra annoying is I never felt the need to use a case when phones were smaller, but one-handed corner reaching upsets the balance of the phone in my hand now to the point wh…

iPhone has this accessibility feature ‘Reachability’ that can help. On the SE you double tap (but not click) the home button, I think on others you swipe up and down quickly from the bottom centre.

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Google really needs to improve the core offering of what a phone is supposed to provide instead of using half baked AI as a selling point. I have been using Pixel 7 for almost the past 2 years. But the amount of basic core issues are crazy. Recently,since the July update, every place where the phone cannot catch network signal, it shutdowns. And with the update, somehow i feel it cannot catch network signal as strong…

Meanwhile, I'm getting pushed away from iOS when I can't customise basic things and the Phone app (you know, the main use of a phone) takes 30s to open, even after restores.

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I wish we had more than two phone giants. This is aggravating. Unfortunately due to their market dominance and muddling of (hardware, OS, software distribution, and platform ecosystem), it's almost impossible to disentangle. It'd be amazing if the DOJ made these companies only offer one slice of those four things. There would be so much competition and a wild variety of new things being tried.

As far as the phone hardware goes, Google isn't much of a giant worldwide: Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo, Huawei and probably a few more outsell Google. The pixel is downright rare outside of the US.

Pixels were the best selling android smartphone of 2023 in Japan. It's gained a lot of popularity recently here in Japan.

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The Pixel and iPhone are really seeming homogenous with each other. The marketing seems similar, typefaces used, the naming conventions are close to the same, the airbrushed image generators, the photos app marketing that's turning your personal photos into a photoshoot with editing capabilities. On top of that you've got the same earbuds form factor, smart watches, etc.

I wish we had more than two phone giants. This is aggravating. Unfortunately due to their market dominance and muddling of (hardware, OS, software distribution, and platform ecosystem), it's almost impossible to disentangle. It'd be amazing if the DOJ made these companies only offer one slice of those four things. There would be so much competition and a wild variety of new things being tried.

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I'm kind of sad that the world seems to have given up on the smaller phones. The marketing of the masculine hand holding the larger phone is amusing to me, and I can understand wanting to have a larger screen. I do not like the amount of space these things take in my pocket, though.

I am male with large palm and fingers but a 6.5" phone is simply unusable for being a phone. Pocket? Haha, probably a small sachet, weights 0.2kg, comedic on the face for calling, all the folks lost their minds completely giving 1000$ for such a parody?! It can't even sit stable on the desk for f's sake. Pretentius fragile money pit garbage all.

Just set up a new Android with 6.5" size and I am in a particularly bad mood now. Wasting my hours on ...this! The process itself is infuriating, zillions of 'features' just wasting my time reading how über-user-focused are so set it up NOW! while tap-tap-tap-tap-tap for seemingly into eternity, beyond comfortable by an ocean plus a half, but watch for this and accept that and log in and register here and connect that and you will be amazed, allow us to take your data, don't worry, we care, we say it repeatedly so it must be like that, right?, here are two dozens of icons be amazed about, wow how many icons are there it is amazing, amazing multiplied, word-editor-assistant-presentation-maker-tv-communication-console-education-news-pretty-sleepwithme-and-tap-me-tap-me-day-and-nigh-oh-yes, into eternity, but first allow this and allow that, just one more, read that, we improve your experience so do it do it, do it again and again, soon we get there, oh wait, camera MUST have discovery of nerby devices otherwise closes itself, hmmm, not something on my old Pentax, that's new kind of development in the history of photography, watching for nearby bicycle or toaster or whatever...

Users have no self respect nowadays, none!, and swallow whatever manufacturers stomp down their throats in the dozen, repeatedly. It is good this thing was the cheapest, I did not dare discovering past 8 years' development on high price, and will only be used as a small tablet at home apart from being a guinea pig, not good for anything else (without satisfying its attention hungry distracting barrage of time wasting functional nothingness). Maybe navigation from time to time, but unsure, heavier than some travel books!

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