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There's also the obligatory non-Pro model, and a refresh of the Pixel Fold: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_9 https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_9_pro_fold Usually the Pro is bigger than the non-Pro but this time they're exactly the same size, and they've added a bigger Pro XL variant. https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Pixel-9,Google... The Pro and Pro XL appear to have identical specs as…

Would have been nice if they did a regular size (5.8”) for normal people and 6.8” for the genetic freaks with dinner plate hands. 6.3” is still huge. 5.8” is workable. And it’s not like there’s no precedent, the Zenfone 10 is also 5.8” and is adored for it.

6.8" is so close to their old Nexus 7 tablet that was 7" lol

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Serious case of sticker shock here. My current Android phone was free from the provider in exchange for buying around 3 months of service in advance. It is no speed demon but certainly does all of your average phone stuff just fine.

I have only two reasons to buy a high end phone (which I buy used, of course):

1. Taking good photos. I like my DSLR, but for memories a phone is handier. And cheap phones take crappy photos in low light (i.e. indoor) conditions. I don't want to look at family photos 20 years from now and say "Boy, I wish I paid $200 extra".

2. Lasting longer. My current phone was launched in 2017 (bought in 2019). It had a powerful CPU and a lot of RAM. It's still running fine.

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I wish we had more than two phone giants. This is aggravating. Unfortunately due to their market dominance and muddling of (hardware, OS, software distribution, and platform ecosystem), it's almost impossible to disentangle. It'd be amazing if the DOJ made these companies only offer one slice of those four things. There would be so much competition and a wild variety of new things being tried.

As far as the phone hardware goes, Google isn't much of a giant worldwide: Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo, Huawei and probably a few more outsell Google. The pixel is downright rare outside of the US.

They don't even sell Pixels in most places, the Pixel 9 series is launching in 32 countries, except the Pixel 9 Fold which is only launching in 19. Believe it or not that's a significant improvement from the Pixel 8 series and first Fold which debuted in only 20 and 4 countries respectively.

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I'm surprised that no media outlet is seriously talking about its on-device inference capability, which is the biggest next thing for LLM. Apple did a better job on its PR here, but they didn't also get all the attention that it deserves.

On-device inference improves not just its latency, this also removes a huge chunk of LLM's economical constraints from software companies. The biggest advantage of software is its marginal cost being nearly zero. LLM hasn't enjoyed this luxuries but the dynamic is going to change.

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It blows me away that people will spend $1k for a phone when there are good options for $500 or less. I will grant that Google's phone is probably the best. But in my experience the difference in quality does not correlate to the difference in price. Apple has a monopoly and they set price expectations. Also, I think buyers think if you have a cheaper phone strangers may think you are poor. Personally I want people t…

what are your favorite $500 or less options

I bought a "renewed" iPhone 11 from Amazon a month ago for $230 and have been seriously impressed with it.

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The only thing that could pry an iPhone from my hands is a foldable screen. I have envy.

I have a zFlip 5 and love it. I was pretty hesitant about switching (Pixel user before) but I like the smaller size in my pocket when folded and there seems to be a psychological effect of closing it when I'm done that results in my mindlessly fiddling with it less.

>psychological effect of closing it

When I close mine, my dog immediately jumps up because he knows I'm done sitting down messing with my phone.

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I'm surprised that no media outlet is seriously talking about its on-device inference capability, which is the biggest next thing for LLM. Apple did a better job on its PR here, but they didn't also get all the attention that it deserves. On-device inference improves not just its latency, this also removes a huge chunk of LLM's economical constraints from software companies. The biggest advantage of software is its m…

It's good for privacy so media companies probably don't want you to know it exists.

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I was initially excited at the announcement of the "fold" phone, but then I saw it's effectively two phone screens, instead of one folded in half. Sigh... I have a Pixel 3a, and it's still larger than I'd like. I realize that the market for folks who would prefer something smaller is, well, small. But, I look at the phone landscape, and I hate every one of them. I like the Pixel, because it's stock Android. I wish th…

What's your concern about it being two screens?

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Google's trade-in estimates for the P9 Pro: Pixel Fold (256/512): $760 Pixel 8 Pro (128/256/512/1TB): $699 Pixel 8 (128/256): $490 Pixel 7a: $300 Pixel 7 Pro (128/256/512): $540 Pixel 7 (128/256): $360 Edit: there's a complete overview of all trade in estimates in this post: https://slickdeals.net/f/17689866-buy-pixel-9-pro-or-pixel-9...

I have a P8Pro and it may well be worth the money to trade it in, especially to get a slightly more manageable sized phone.

Yeah, that sounds perfect. To go from my 256GB P8 to a 256GB P9 Pro would cost me about $610 + 10% tax after trade-in which I don't think I'll have the stomach for.

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Serious case of sticker shock here. My current Android phone was free from the provider in exchange for buying around 3 months of service in advance. It is no speed demon but certainly does all of your average phone stuff just fine.

I absolutely refuse to pay for a phone; call me old-school, but I am still stuck in the memory of the days when they came 'free' with service contracts. Me? I will happily take a slightly outdated phone with a new provider/contract where I don't pay anything on top of the expected monthly fee. I have 8 months left on my iPhone13 mini (128GB) w/VZW and will happily change to one of the other Big Threes to make it happ…

> I will happily take a slightly outdated phone with a new provider/contract where I don't pay anything on top of the expected monthly fee.

At least for Android, the main issue you'll face is the lack of Android updates. Which eventually leads to apps no longer working because they don't support your Android version.

My phone (2017) still runs everything fast, but I can't install several apps merely because they don't claim to support my old Android version. I have to go online and find apks of the app's version that last supported my Android version.

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