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There's also the obligatory non-Pro model, and a refresh of the Pixel Fold: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_9 https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_9_pro_fold Usually the Pro is bigger than the non-Pro but this time they're exactly the same size, and they've added a bigger Pro XL variant. https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Pixel-9,Google... The Pro and Pro XL appear to have identical specs as…

Sadly, the Pixel 9 Pro Fold seems to have the camera of the base Pixel 9 (non-Pro), rather than the much nicer camera of the Pixel 9 Pro.

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Pixel 9 also says satellite emergency support ("Satellite SOS"). Search for info gets you to https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/15254448?hl=en&... It looks like it's coming "later this year". Lots of chatter about it, see a few details at https://www.androidauthority.com/pixel-9-satellite-sos-34676... * apparently coming with android 15, but they are shipping android 14 * turning on satellite sos later, but…

Plus Garmin devices use the Iridium network which has truly global coverage (as opposed to Globalstar which is only in select areas of the world) as well as other features useful for non-emergency backcountry travel. I won't be dropping my Garmin InReach any time soon.

I do a lot of solo hiking and use a Garmin with InReach in case of emergency and to reassure my wife, it can also send my position every N minutes (I usually set it for 20 when on the trails in an area with limited or no cell phone coverage). I wouldn't mind if similar functionality becomes common on cell phones.

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I'm an iPhone guy, but - there _are_ other designs for phones, right? The squircle corners, the shiny metal band surrounding the matte back, the aqua-pill-shaped buttons, the colors - Google is a $2T company, there's gotta be an industrial designer somewhere in the building or some process for phone design that doesn't take place in Cupertino, right?

That phone isn't a squircle, it is a rounded square. Those rounded edges seem to be inspired by google material design. Also phones have converged to the metal band, glass back before the iphone did it. Mobile phones are a mature technology and their designs have converged to the designs people are buying.

I really wonder if consumers have any influence on phone designs. People generally buy phones for completely different reasons, the design just has to be "not bad" which generally means just take whatevers available that meets your actual criteria (OS, camera quality, etc). After all you'll probably have to slap a case on it anyways.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My phone (£500/$500) was released in Nov 2017, bought in Feb 2018, and it's still just fine. Only recently have I been noticing the battery life is getting a bit pathetic. Spending £500 on a new one hasn't really entered my thoughts. The last time I went shopping for an (Android) phone with and for my girlfriend it was a nightmare - so many absolutely shit giant phones that don't feel right in the hand

ifixit has exclusive deals with some manufacturers where you can get an OEM replacement battery + tools for ~$30-50. can easily double the lifespan of a well-maintained device

Recently did that with my laptop. Replaced the battery and fans and reapplied thermal paste to the processor for £100.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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It would be nice to have some competition.

Right now basically you are forced to buy a Pixel phone, because if you don't buy an iOS or Android device you don't have apps, if you buy an iOS device you lose your freedom, and if you don't buy a Pixel phone you don't have timely updates and GrapheneOS and thus don't have an open source, frequently updated and well-engineered OS.

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I went through many moto/samsung/google phones. Every single one sucked ass after about a year or two. Wasn't a big deal when the phones came with contract renewals. Became a major deciding factor to abandon them when I had to hand over my own cash. If I'm paying 500+ for a device it needs to you know... last more than a few years.

This hasn't been a problem on Android in 7-8 years. I bought my S10+ brand new in 2019, and it still works flawlessly till today (well, except the battery).

The S7 Edge was the last time I experienced slowdowns after 1-2 years.

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I'm kind of sad that the world seems to have given up on the smaller phones. The marketing of the masculine hand holding the larger phone is amusing to me, and I can understand wanting to have a larger screen. I do not like the amount of space these things take in my pocket, though.

I broke my iPhone 12 mini and part of me died that day. A tired dad moment – set the phone on the trunk lid when getting my kid in the car and then later opened the trunk. It slid down and crunched in the hinge. I could replace it with another mini but have been holding out hope for another updated version. I love the small form factor, even at the expense of battery life and camera quality. I just want a reasonable…

In the beginning, smartphones were all tiny, because it was universally agreed that smaller cell phones were better.

Then there was a huge, neverending push to make phones as large as possible, or larger. Sometimes smaller phones have been offered as an unpopular option, but more often "enormous" is the minimum size.

And as long as that's been going on, people have been complaining that they want their phone to fit in their hand.

Stipulate that a majority seems to feel that there's no need for a phone to fit in your hand. Why are the manufacturers so insistent on not providing small phones? Shirts come in all different sizes. How much does it cost to design an additional size of phone?

(Related: ever since the switch to 16:9 laptop screens, everyone has been complaining to no avail about the inferior dimensions of the screen. Why are manufacturers still cramming them down our throats? This one isn't even a case where people prefer 16:9 to 16:10.)

The best form factor of any smartphone I've owned is the first one, the Nexus S: 63mm wide, 124mm tall, and the back popped off to make replacing the battery convenient.

Phones have gotten steadily worse, as far as usability goes, ever since. There's more computing power, but I have trouble believing that's what's driving the shape.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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I'm an iPhone guy, but - there _are_ other designs for phones, right? The squircle corners, the shiny metal band surrounding the matte back, the aqua-pill-shaped buttons, the colors - Google is a $2T company, there's gotta be an industrial designer somewhere in the building or some process for phone design that doesn't take place in Cupertino, right?

Profitable products attract copycat designs. Samsung copied no removable battery and the metal used. The first Google phone was a Blackberry style layout until Apple popularized the all touchscreen design.

Apple copied bigger screens and Android’s notifications.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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I'm an iPhone guy, but - there _are_ other designs for phones, right? The squircle corners, the shiny metal band surrounding the matte back, the aqua-pill-shaped buttons, the colors - Google is a $2T company, there's gotta be an industrial designer somewhere in the building or some process for phone design that doesn't take place in Cupertino, right?

Mobile phone design peaked with the Nokia 3110 and the Motorola MicroTAC, and it's been downhill ever since.

My fav iconic Nokia design was the 7600: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_7600 ;)
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