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I broke my iPhone 12 mini and part of me died that day. A tired dad moment – set the phone on the trunk lid when getting my kid in the car and then later opened the trunk. It slid down and crunched in the hinge. I could replace it with another mini but have been holding out hope for another updated version. I love the small form factor, even at the expense of battery life and camera quality. I just want a reasonable…

Didn't they basically confirm that they're discontinuing the mini series? The 15 is still your best bet.

bought a 15- bearing in mind that the 12 mini was also too large for me (5s was perfect).

15 Pro has been dropped many more times, can’t be operated with one hand at all. It’s the first time I had to have a replacement screen actually- after owning iPhones for 15 years.

Anyway… I’m considering going back to the 5s. I would only miss wireless charging and apple wallet I think. (and apps are now made for the larger screen and will have elements that are inaccessible due to going passed the edges of the display).

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I love Google Pixel phones because of Google Fi for traveling; unfortunately Google Fi is facing major service downgrades/outages for travelers (including me) who go on 3+ month trips out of the US. Google Support tells me the Google Pixel 9 Pro has the same limitation. For comparison my iPhone works fine on Verizon. The issue is now described in the Google Pixel T&C, and I hope Google will eventually offer a way to…

I used to be a Google Fi fan (early adopter at that) for European trips ... but nowadays, with multi-ESims, it is trivial to get a local SIM card and use that. The local data plans are typically more broadly useable and cheaper than the $10/GB that Fi offers. When it comes to Europe (and this might apply to other destinations as well) Fi is a bad deal.

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I'm kind of sad that the world seems to have given up on the smaller phones. The marketing of the masculine hand holding the larger phone is amusing to me, and I can understand wanting to have a larger screen. I do not like the amount of space these things take in my pocket, though.

I can see wanting a smaller phone. That is an underserved market segment. But implying that phone marketing is patriarchy-driven is laughably absurd. Marketing for phones is probably more diverse and carefully balanced than for any other product category.

Apologies, I meant my comment as a dig on the old idea that the larger phone is for men. It genuinely amused me that they used different hands to hold the phone. Especially since I have no real concept looking at that page on how big it would be in my hands.

And note that this was a serious criticism a few years ago where it was a complaint that all things are designed for 6' men by default. I don't know if that is still the general belief, but it got a ton of traction for at least a short while. I would be surprised if there aren't a fair number of folks that still think that.

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"Unlock Gemini Advanced for a year on us ($239 value)" Who thinks they are booking phone sales as AI revenue to juice the numbers?

Phone with scuba glasses and the woke AI. In fact it looks like Bender from Futurama, only with a nondescript personality. Thanx but no. No need for an AI to lecture me or avoid questions because it thinks it might remotely offend a hypothetic alien civilization.

Can't stand the iPhone either. At least it has a good camera and audio, but most of the apps are either junk or you have to pay for Apple rent seeking. A lot of shady Chinese apps. I spent hours trying to find a decent calculator like the stock one on Android. And the on screen keyboard is outright annoying. Couldn't turn off haptics either.

So I'm still using my Pixel 4a until it dies. The iPhone is garthering dust on my nightstand.

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One of the big problems with Pixel phones is their lack of thorough testing. You upgrade and suddenly you encounter strange Bluetooth issues, call problems, or other features that were working fine before but suddenly stop functioning. Tons of people will be complaining about this in forums, and you won't receive any updates to fix them for months. IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriou…

> IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriously use them as daily drivers. I've had Pixel 3XL, Pixel 5, Pixel 8, and Pixel Tablet all without issue. I realize that can't be everyone's experience, but the idea that you can't "seriously use" these devices is untrue.

I upgraded from a Pixel 3XL to a Pixel 7 Pro XL. I've been generally happy. But...

Back in September 2019, my Pixel 3XL had a problem doing an OTA update. I spent hours with Google support (both live and over email). Their only suggestion was to reset the phone and restore from backup.

The problem is... I had had the 'backup' option in settings enabled, the whole time I had the phone. I thought it was being backed up regularly. But I could not create a backup from my phone. I tried rebooting the phone, but the 'Backup Now' button was still greyed out. Based on some information from the web, I disabled my PIN. That caused my Google accounts to be logged out, but DID enable the 'Backup Now' button. However, the backup failed. I tried doing a backup via adb, which also failed.

IIRC this was before Google Authenticator had the ability to transfer 2FA codes from one device to another. So, without the ability to restore from backup, a reset would mean I needed to recreate 2FA codes for tens of services, which is pretty time-consuming.

I wasn't the only person with this problem: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/13519859?hl=en

I really like Pixel phones, and just ordered a Pixel 9. But for the foreseeable future my parents will continue getting iPhones.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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post #183

I'm kind of sad that the world seems to have given up on the smaller phones. The marketing of the masculine hand holding the larger phone is amusing to me, and I can understand wanting to have a larger screen. I do not like the amount of space these things take in my pocket, though.

I can see wanting a smaller phone. That is an underserved market segment. But implying that phone marketing is patriarchy-driven is laughably absurd. Marketing for phones is probably more diverse and carefully balanced than for any other product category.

They probably were trying to imply that they had to use a male model to hold the phone because they are now huge

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Pixel 9 also says satellite emergency support ("Satellite SOS"). Search for info gets you to https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/15254448?hl=en&... It looks like it's coming "later this year". Lots of chatter about it, see a few details at https://www.androidauthority.com/pixel-9-satellite-sos-34676... * apparently coming with android 15, but they are shipping android 14 * turning on satellite sos later, but…

TBF that’s what Apple did, basically. It wasn’t in the initial release. Needed a software update 2 months later or so. You were only supposed to get 1 year (?) of service. But they extended that by a year. Because of that everyone with a qualifying phone is still in the “free” stage so we still don’t know what it will cost. Or when that will start. If ever. I’ve never used it but I like that my iPhone has it. I would…

It's doubtful they'll ever charge for SOS. The "one year, one more year" thing is likely to make the accounting and liability work out. If they had just said "free for the life of the phone" it would have locked them into providing the service for many years, and required revenue deferral for many years. Easier to just under-promise.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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post #183

I'm kind of sad that the world seems to have given up on the smaller phones. The marketing of the masculine hand holding the larger phone is amusing to me, and I can understand wanting to have a larger screen. I do not like the amount of space these things take in my pocket, though.

From what I have seen women tend to prefer the larger phone sizes more than men, because they keep it in their handbags and use it two-handed.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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post #183

I'm kind of sad that the world seems to have given up on the smaller phones. The marketing of the masculine hand holding the larger phone is amusing to me, and I can understand wanting to have a larger screen. I do not like the amount of space these things take in my pocket, though.

This has been brought up in the past and Apple did try to cater to that market with their smaller phone and it seemed the market response was not great, they ultimately had to drop the iPhone mini because it was not worth it.
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