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Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Can someone explain why we get 12GB and 16GB RAM in these phones, but Apple sells its MacBook Air M3 with 8GB as the starting configuration. Shouldn't mobile phones require much less RAM?

This is what happens when your phone and all it's apps are written in a garbage collected language.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Bit of advice I'm looking for, if my question resonates for you: I've had Pixels in the past (pretty distant past at this stage) but I generally found the experience to be too "beta" or "experimental", in that various features would not carry over to a new Pixel, and I'd have to get used to something entirely different all over again. In contrast, I've enjoyed the Samsung approach, and I love the Fold. (I also carry…

I've never used the fold, I'd be a bit concerned about the screen wearing at the crease. Damage is another thing to be worried about. As for the pixels, my advice is to hold off buying the latest until like Feb or even May. Google pretty aggressively drops the prices after release so waiting just a little bit will save you several hundred dollars. By Feb, generally the phones have been pretty stable.

Black Friday usually gets a couple hundred $ off as well. Only risk is that if the phone (or watch, etc) is selling well then they won't discount it, so you might end up waiting a long time or waiting a couple months and still paying full price. I always try to hold out for Black Friday though unless my old phone is broken.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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My Pixel 5 is an amazing device, but it's slowly falling apart, software-wise. Bugs bugs and more bugs! It's also no longer getting software updates, and its successors have a laundry list of issues. The alternative is Samsung, the company that doesn't understand privacy nor consent, or Apple, whose phones lack uBlock support.

FWIW, I use a Pixel 8 with an aramid fiber case (Thinborne), and it's pretty much a strict upgrade over the Pixel 5. Only real downside is that it's ~1.6mm thicker than a caseless Pixel 5, but on the other hand the added protection of a case comes in handy.

Does the case make the candybar-style camera feel less bulky? I'm in the market for a new phone, and the Pixel form factor is really nice, but the protruding camera makes me hesitate.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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So who does make good phones?

It's crazy that I'm the first person in this sub-thread to mention Samsung, when they are by far the market leader in Android phones. They have decent options at pretty much every price point. For some reason, HN and Reddit just hates this company, and I don't understand why. People talk about "bloat", because Samsung ships with their own apps for things like phone, clock, calculator, etc. But it's trivial to uninsta…

They switched the home and back buttons... why? I can only assume it was to make competing android phones feel awkward such that those who step foot outside of Samsung quickly run back to "safety".

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It blows me away that people will spend $1k for a phone when there are good options for $500 or less. I will grant that Google's phone is probably the best. But in my experience the difference in quality does not correlate to the difference in price. Apple has a monopoly and they set price expectations. Also, I think buyers think if you have a cheaper phone strangers may think you are poor. Personally I want people t…

> It blows me away that people will spend $1k for a phone when there are good options for $500 or less Wait till you see how people spend $60k on a car when there are perfectly good options for $30k. And people also spend much more time with their phones than in their cars.

I don't disagree but.. 1) To me there is a lot more variety in cars than phones. An SUV is very different then a sports car or some luxury car. Phones vary a lot in OS (but people don't cross shop), a little in battery and a lot in camera.

As a thought experiment, if you put me in a civic I will know I am in a civic and not a BMW in one second. If you gave me an iphone 10 or an iphone12. Or a google 8 vs google 10... You get my point. Yes Android is different then iOS but people are usually locked in.

2) In general people spend way too much on cars, either to buy capability they don't really need or can't use. Or to try and say something about themselves.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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It blows me away that people will spend $1k for a phone when there are good options for $500 or less. I will grant that Google's phone is probably the best. But in my experience the difference in quality does not correlate to the difference in price. Apple has a monopoly and they set price expectations. Also, I think buyers think if you have a cheaper phone strangers may think you are poor. Personally I want people t…

It blows me away that people will spend $500 for a phone when there are good options for $150 or less. :0

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I've had a Pixel 8 Pro since launch day and have had zero issues with it. Really great phone.

Wait until they update the OS

I'm in Android 15 beta with my P8P. Zero issues. So where are the problems I'm supposed to have?

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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One of the big problems with Pixel phones is their lack of thorough testing. You upgrade and suddenly you encounter strange Bluetooth issues, call problems, or other features that were working fine before but suddenly stop functioning. Tons of people will be complaining about this in forums, and you won't receive any updates to fix them for months. IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriou…

I have a Pixel 7 Pro, and my Bluetooth has been fine. No issues there, ever, but I do have complaints about features suddenly not working and it mostly revolves around Google Assistant. It is utterly inconsistent with what it does, and it is maddening.

It randomly wants me to unlock the device to play music, but I'm using voice controls because I'm driving. It has my car's bluetooth device set as "trusted" so it shouldn't even require it to unlock to continue, and it's not like asking it to play something on Spotify would reveal any information about myself. Additionally, sometimes it just leaves the screen on in the off chance that it _does_ start to play music, and I feel my pocket getting warm but there's nothing that I can do because I'm driving and I don't want to mess with my phone.

If I knew that it was going to leave the screen on I would just queue up music before I leave, but it doesn't always do it and it drives me nuts. I don't think that my next phone will be a Pixel.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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One of the big problems with Pixel phones is their lack of thorough testing. You upgrade and suddenly you encounter strange Bluetooth issues, call problems, or other features that were working fine before but suddenly stop functioning. Tons of people will be complaining about this in forums, and you won't receive any updates to fix them for months. IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriou…

> IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriously use them as daily drivers. I've had Pixel 3XL, Pixel 5, Pixel 8, and Pixel Tablet all without issue. I realize that can't be everyone's experience, but the idea that you can't "seriously use" these devices is untrue.

As shocking as that sounds, I had a Pixel 7 and after sometime calls stopped coming through making me miss some emergency calls.

I have never ever had a phone do that and I have used some really cheap phones.

So I don't think what OP is saying is far from the truth. I am resolved to never buying a Pixel again.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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> IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriously use them as daily drivers. While there's a lot you said that I agree with, I find this statement quite an exaggeration. I've owned Pixel phones for the last 7 years, both with stock and custom ROMS, and as much as Pixel seems to always have weird quirks, it's been reliable enough for me that I don't see why it couldn't be a daily driver. That…

>I've been legit hacked, but I don't have enough fingers to count all the times ?>that software bugs did things like get me stranded, cut me off from my finances, >almost get me killed on the road, and so forth. I hesitate to defend apple on Hackernews but I have never experienced anything like these issues with any iPhone. Major problem is battery life, other than that I can say the core features of every iPhone I'v…

Neither have I on all my android phones. Only device that failed me was an iPad 3 (yeah 12 years ago) that I got replaced in the store due to it crashing right in their hands. But hey, anecdotes.
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