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I usually sell my $1k phone after a couple years so I end up paying much less than $1k in the end, while getting a better phone out of it than had I just bought the $500 phone up front. It blows me away that people actually care how much other people spend on something at all. Want a $50 flip phone? Cool. Want a $1300 fancy fold phone? Also fine. When I had my last kid we got a Snoo bassinet, $1300 or so. Anyone that…

> $400 investment Why is this word used to describe "pure financial loss" so often when talking about purchased luxury goods? > Investment: the outlay of money usually for income or profit

Because the implication is that there is non-monetary profit. The person is describing it not as a loss but as an investment, because it was an investment in themselves and their ability to sleep at night and an investment in their child feeling safe and whatever other impossible-to-directly-price externalities were realized as a result of the monetary loss.

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It blows me away that people will spend $1k for a phone when there are good options for $500 or less. I will grant that Google's phone is probably the best. But in my experience the difference in quality does not correlate to the difference in price. Apple has a monopoly and they set price expectations. Also, I think buyers think if you have a cheaper phone strangers may think you are poor. Personally I want people t…

I usually sell my $1k phone after a couple years so I end up paying much less than $1k in the end, while getting a better phone out of it than had I just bought the $500 phone up front. It blows me away that people actually care how much other people spend on something at all. Want a $50 flip phone? Cool. Want a $1300 fancy fold phone? Also fine. When I had my last kid we got a Snoo bassinet, $1300 or so. Anyone that…

> It blows me away that people actually care how much other people spend on something at all

Well you can dislike this fact but there is nothing seems to be blown away about it. Because this is such a mundane fact about people.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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It blows me away that people will spend $1k for a phone when there are good options for $500 or less. I will grant that Google's phone is probably the best. But in my experience the difference in quality does not correlate to the difference in price. Apple has a monopoly and they set price expectations. Also, I think buyers think if you have a cheaper phone strangers may think you are poor. Personally I want people t…

Is there a new, $500 or less, phone with 256 GB of Flash, an unlockabke bootloader, and good GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, or LineageOS support?

Oddly enough I end up buying Google phones because I do not wish to put up with Google's shit.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I usually sell my $1k phone after a couple years so I end up paying much less than $1k in the end, while getting a better phone out of it than had I just bought the $500 phone up front. It blows me away that people actually care how much other people spend on something at all. Want a $50 flip phone? Cool. Want a $1300 fancy fold phone? Also fine. When I had my last kid we got a Snoo bassinet, $1300 or so. Anyone that…

> $400 investment Why is this word used to describe "pure financial loss" so often when talking about purchased luxury goods? > Investment: the outlay of money usually for income or profit

Investment in x% higher likelihood of your child's safety.

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I'm currently on the 6 and one issue it has is a pretty bad battery drain. Every so often it gets into superheating mode where the CPU is doing... something... and the phone gets wicked hot. I've even replaced the battery and the problem persists. I don't care much about photos so the 9 really just doesn't have anything that would make me want to buy it. I'll probably be holding on to my 6 until it reaches the end of…

Do you think this is recent? I've been using a Pixel 6A for over a year, this current one only a few months. In the last few weeks it has started (seemingly) randomly getting quite warm.

It's been better for me, it doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to. The worst of it was around the beginning of this year.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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It blows me away that people will spend $1k for a phone when there are good options for $500 or less. I will grant that Google's phone is probably the best. But in my experience the difference in quality does not correlate to the difference in price. Apple has a monopoly and they set price expectations. Also, I think buyers think if you have a cheaper phone strangers may think you are poor. Personally I want people t…

So I get pixel because of security and less software bloat, along with good custom ROM support.

That being said, at least for me, my phone is the device I spend the most time with, whether articals, emails, books, podcasts etc.

It is at least 5 hrs a day.

This is probably an argument to spend less time on my phone, but the will is weak.

But if I am spending a significant percentage of my waking life interacting with this single electronic device, a price difference of 500 dollars is not much, especially amortized over a 3 year period.

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This was a major issue that drove me away from Android. In addition to first party bugs, I got tired of 3rd party accessories not working correctly. My theory was iPhone probably got tested on most 3rd party accessories. However, the fragmentation in the Android space meant I’d have no idea what devices they actually tested with. This is further compounded by the fact that Android isn’t really an open platform, at le…

There's also only one Bluetooth stack on Apple's platforms (presumably shared), so testing is more straightforward. And if so inclined, there's also the Made for iPhone program that requires validation, but again that's with one device in two form factors. It's not a fair challenge comparing Android device support because the task is bigger, though Google could probably do some stuff to make that less painful.

It's almost like there should be a, I don't know, STANDARD test suite that peripherals, phones, and chips that want to use the Bluetooth STANDARD would have to pass in order to advertise being compatible with the Bluetooth STANDARD, as directed and administered by the Bluetooth STANDARD organization.

Bluetooth is so old that it was coming into use when Computer Shopper was still published. It's been a dumpster fire of compatibility since its inception.

There's one of two culprits on the Android side: either its the device drivers, or the OS itself. Device drivers should be capable of being subjected to stringent acceptance standards in order to advertise "Bluetooth". If it's the OS, that's even worse since it is higher up the abstraction stack. At least the device drivers being closer to hardware have an excuse.

Bluetooth is 26 years old. A 26 year old industry standard should be better than a coinflip as to whether some bluetooth thingamajig will work with a mobile OS. It's just sad.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Can someone explain why we get 12GB and 16GB RAM in these phones, but Apple sells its MacBook Air M3 with 8GB as the starting configuration.

Shouldn't mobile phones require much less RAM?

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