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Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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There's also the obligatory non-Pro model, and a refresh of the Pixel Fold: https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_9 https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_9_pro_fold Usually the Pro is bigger than the non-Pro but this time they're exactly the same size, and they've added a bigger Pro XL variant. https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Google-Pixel-9,Google... The Pro and Pro XL appear to have identical specs as…

I'm glad they finally went this route. I can't be the only one who usually wants the specs of the Pro but always opts for the smallest phone (p1, p3, p5 & now p8).

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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The previous camera bulge was questionable but this one looks horrendous

All camera bulges are a poor design. Just make the battery thicker. Either way people are throwing a case on to make the back straight again.

> Just make the battery thicker

These devices are already rather heavy.

I wish there were more options for people who don’t care that much about the camera in their smartphone. I remember the non-bump camera in the 7.6 mm thin 2016 iPhone SE was perfectly fine for many situations, I took some impressive vacation photos with it.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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All camera bulges are a poor design. Just make the battery thicker. Either way people are throwing a case on to make the back straight again.

I think the bulges are because everyone’s using a case anyway, so they may as well bump out. Unless someone’s doing the “I care so little about protecting several hundred dollars that I use an expensive phone without a case” thing.

I never used a case and know a number of other people who don’t.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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So, if I understand correctly this “built-in” Gemini is 100% just calling to the Gemini cloud backend? Honestly, Apple Intelligence is looking much better than this. But I suppose it’s no wonder, I don’t think Pixels are a large market for Google, while iPhones kind of are for Apple.

There's Gemini Nano which runs on-device

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It’s total trash AI. I keep forgetting to unsubscribe. Can’t do anything.

I mostly agree, but partially because I can't tell (even though I'm paying $20/month) what tier of Gemini I am getting. I know most people won't care, but because they won't tell me, I will assume I'm getting Gemini Flash from 6 months ago, and I'm not paying $20/month for that. I'm sure if they were honest about the model people wouldn't pay for it. They're making the mistake of optimizing for general case users (wh…

I have Gemini Advanced but I can't tell which model it is, yeah. Same problem. Whatever it is, it's useless. GPT-2 level. Can't do anything reasonable.

Claude 3.5 Sonnet and ChatGPT-4o are roughly the same with the former pipping it for me and then out there is this shitty Google product that is worse than Llama-3 running on my own laptop. Even Llama-3 is better at remembering what's going on.

Fortunately, this time I managed to look it up and I have it for free because I have Google One 5TB, apparently. And there's no way to spend more money so that's what I have. It's so bad that when Claude and ChatGPT run out of messages for me I just use local Llama rather than use Gemini. Atrocious product.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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I’m still bitter about my last Pixel with the stuttering display (no real-time thread for the graphics), the settings all over the place (I counted 4 different addresses for my home, and 1 was deeply hidden in their assistant), and the debug strings in UPPER_SNAKE_CASE in the Google apps, which is unacceptable for a device that is sold to everyone.

My Pixel 5 is an amazing device, but it's slowly falling apart, software-wise. Bugs bugs and more bugs! It's also no longer getting software updates, and its successors have a laundry list of issues.

The alternative is Samsung, the company that doesn't understand privacy nor consent, or Apple, whose phones lack uBlock support.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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post #37

The previous camera bulge was questionable but this one looks horrendous

It's a really ugly phone, and for sure it's a combination of Google playing "catch up" but not wanting to invest in Industrial Design like Apple.

Is it? Maybe I've spent too long using iPhones—I look at that, and think "yep, that's a phone". It looks very vanilla.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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I love Google Pixel phones because of Google Fi for traveling; unfortunately Google Fi is facing major service downgrades/outages for travelers (including me) who go on 3+ month trips out of the US. Google Support tells me the Google Pixel 9 Pro has the same limitation. For comparison my iPhone works fine on Verizon. The issue is now described in the Google Pixel T&C, and I hope Google will eventually offer a way to…

fwiw, T-Mobile also have the 90 days restriction. I'm not entirely sure it's a company policy vs a US policy.
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