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Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

#41

Post by jph » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 5:49 PM UTC

I love Google Pixel phones because of Google Fi for traveling; unfortunately Google Fi is facing major service downgrades/outages for travelers (including me) who go on 3+ month trips out of the US. Google Support tells me the Google Pixel 9 Pro has the same limitation. For comparison my iPhone works fine on Verizon.

The issue is now described in the Google Pixel T&C, and I hope Google will eventually offer a way to buy a Google Pixel phone and Google Fi that offers full functionality for longer trips.

Here's a link about it:

https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/tech-tips/goog...

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

#42

Post by katzinsky » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 5:49 PM UTC

ValleZ wrote: post #35

katzinsky wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be nice to be able to run llama.cpp on my phone but if I had the choice between that and a root shell and c compiler I'd definitely take the shell.

Private AI app in play store wraps llama.cpp

Heh I guess that's a good point. All I have is a ten year old iPhone just to run Cisco DUO for work and there seems to be no way to run llama.cpp on it even with a very small model.

Occasionally I'll use i.sh to ssh into a decent computer but it would be nice to be able to just run normal software on it.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

#43

Post by fsflover » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 5:49 PM UTC

katzinsky wrote: post #7

The only thing that would make a new phone interesting is Linux support. Otherwise email works, the web works, mms works, and the camera, screen, and RAM, on phones ten years ago was already way more than you need. The phone specific software barely justifies maintaining a phone (and doesn't for me so I don't even own a modern smartphone.) There's certainly nothing to justify upgrading it.

> The only thing that would make a new phone interesting is Linux support.

Looks like you may be interested in Pinephone or Librem 5.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

#44

Post by 999900000999 » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 5:49 PM UTC

I have never been less excited for a phone.

Maybe it's the One Plus 12 I'm holding, but this is a hard pass by me.

All I want is a flagship chip, Esim support and a headphone jack. But since earbuds are almost all profit we won't see jacks coming back.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

#45

Post by sigmar » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 5:49 PM UTC

bhhaskin wrote: post #15

I don't want AI on my phone, so will pass on this one.

Do you think the inclusion of AI is some new departure? Google has declared itself as "AI-first" for the past 8 years[1]. There's been neural cores included in every Pixel since the Pixel 4.

[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/sundar-pichai-ai-first-world...

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

#46

Post by ericpruitt » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 5:50 PM UTC

jph wrote: post #41

I love Google Pixel phones because of Google Fi for traveling; unfortunately Google Fi is facing major service downgrades/outages for travelers (including me) who go on 3+ month trips out of the US. Google Support tells me the Google Pixel 9 Pro has the same limitation. For comparison my iPhone works fine on Verizon. The issue is now described in the Google Pixel T&C, and I hope Google will eventually offer a way to…

Do you have a link with more information on the pending changes?

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

#47

Post by cedws » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 5:50 PM UTC

seneca wrote: post #31

"AI" on my phone is so incredibly unappealing. I don't understand who this is for.

AI phone… AI laptop… AI car… AI toothbrush… yeah nobody’s asking for this shit. It’s just uninventive, unimaginative marketing rubbish. Real innovation doesn’t need to go looking for use cases.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

#48

Post by xd1936 » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 5:50 PM UTC

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #14

Is there a new camera system? As I recall the physical hardware of Pixel cameras have not changed in years.

They said they've rewritten the HDR+ image processing pipeline from scratch for the first time in their live event. Not sure about the Pixel 9 hardware... I think the Pixel 8 was the first new sensor in a while though.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

#49

Post by jaderobbins1 » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 5:50 PM UTC

Rastonbury wrote: post #26

The previous camera bulge was questionable but this one looks horrendous

I really liked the "visor" style of camera bump since the Pixel 6. I like symmetry so the square corner bumps always bothered me, plus it didn't give it a corner wobble when sitting on a table. I wish they would have gone full width on the new Fold :/

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

#50

Post by orra » Tue, Aug 13, 2024, 5:52 PM UTC

the_duke wrote: post #16

throw0101b wrote: post #2

What's the policy on the length of security updates on recent Google-branded phones these days?

In June 2025 new EU regulation will come into effect, mandating at least 5 years of OS updates, starting when the model is *removed from the market* aka the last unit is sold. So in practice that'll mean 7+ years. Note that Apple and Google made a big deal out of extending their upgrade timelines, without mentioning that they actually have to ... if they want to keep selling in the EU.

> Note that Apple and Google made a big deal about how they are extending their upgrade timelines, without mentioning that they actually have to

This is unsurprising, but deceptive and borderline illegal. “Presenting rights given to consumers in law as a distinctive feature of the trader's offer” is an Unfair Commercial Practice.