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If they're shipping notebooks to production and having so many crashes, I'd question that they even know how to do Python.
When do you ship notebooks to production? Jupiter was never meant for external clients.
I used to work for a Go shop. We dealt with financial data. I found it so annoying that many of my colleagues would use Go for one-off tasks such as aggregating CSV files, updating the database with some data, or fetching data from the database, and then trying to make a plot. I saw my colleagues again and again implementing basic algorithms such as rolling median, or finding a maximum. Instead of loading data into P…
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Eh, imo the go libraries still aren't up to par with out of the box java libraries. Like there's still no Set class, nor the equivalent of Map.keys. yeah they're easy to write but that's still not an included battery. Also, while the cli to add stuff is useful, there's still nothing to the level of maven or gradle for dependency management, and I usually find myself doing some fun stuff with `find -execdir` for modul…
maps.Keys is coming in a few days with 1.23. I generally agree with what you are saying. Although I wouldn’t hold out Maven as a paragon. I used to make my living untangling pom.xml files. I don’t think anybody is feeding their family helping people with go.mod messes — although I wish somebody would do that for kubernetes.
Yup! Lots of good stuff in the go/x libraries, happy map.Keys is graduating.
Also totally agreed on maven not being an ideal, or even lovable dependency management system, but trust me that there are absolutely people spending too much time wrangling go.mod files, especially in open source where go.mod files cross repo boundaries (and thus consolidated test automation).
I typically do a bunch of git reset --hard's as I iterate on my find -exec to run the golang cli commands for module upgrades (for whenever rennovate fails). I like how it's much easier to experiment with over maven (maybe I just didn't know maven well enough), but it's still definitely a headache.
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What do you mean by no consistency in formatting? go fmt is a solid formatter that does its job
Go fmt is pretty good, but it's not ideal. My biggest gripe is imports. Go fmt will just sort imports alphabetically in lists that aren't separated by a blank line. Goimports will separate out core from 3rd party imports, unless you run it with the local flag then it'll add a third block of "local" imports. But this spread means that it's not consistent across projects which style is preferred. Some examples, based o…
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> map is also built-in. Where do you find the hash map in the given program? If you told me a type can be optimized because the compiler knows it can only have non-hash-map uses, but I could put that type into a hash map with a single line, I think I would be right to be skeptical. > By your logic some nebulous package in a GitHub repository that happens to satisfy an interface is also another implementation, but you…
> but you called the idea of finding a citation a "waste of time" so that's not very convincing. Not only a waste of time, but straight up illogical. If one wants to have a discussion with someone else, they can go to that someone else. There is no logical reason for me to be a pointless middleman even if time were infinite. Now, as fun as that tangent was, where is the nil implementation and hash map found in the gi…
And what do you mean "someone else"? You're the one that said the compiler "certainly knows" how to do that.
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> map is also built-in. Where do you find the hash map in the given program? If you told me a type can be optimized because the compiler knows it can only have non-hash-map uses, but I could put that type into a hash map with a single line, I think I would be right to be skeptical. > By your logic some nebulous package in a GitHub repository that happens to satisfy an interface is also another implementation, but you…
> but you called the idea of finding a citation a "waste of time" so that's not very convincing. Not only a waste of time, but straight up illogical. If one wants to have a discussion with someone else, they can go to that someone else. There is no logical reason for me to be a pointless middleman even if time were infinite. Now, as fun as that tangent was, where is the nil implementation and hash map found in the gi…
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When do you ship notebooks to production? Jupiter was never meant for external clients.
While terrifying, it is not uncommon to see python notebooks make it to production.
I see how a team or an organization can eventually get to this point. It just saddens me that they got there.
I used to work for a Go shop. We dealt with financial data. I found it so annoying that many of my colleagues would use Go for one-off tasks such as aggregating CSV files, updating the database with some data, or fetching data from the database, and then trying to make a plot. I saw my colleagues again and again implementing basic algorithms such as rolling median, or finding a maximum. Instead of loading data into P…
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2012: Python is Awesome! 2014: Python is a great language, but there are a few pitfalls 2016: Python is a good language with the right IDE, tooling, and process. The people are pretty cool though. 2018: I like python, but I wish more people used type annotations. 2020: You know, metaclasses are freaking awesome! They saved me so much work! 2022: Why can't people code the most obvious solution in python? 2024: Celery!…
2012: Python is Awesome! 2014: Python is a pain in the butt to manage packages and dependencies, how the hell am I gonna deploy this? It's still a mess 10 years later unless you live deep in the ecosystem and know what third-party solutions du jour to manage that complexity. At least we have Docker now. Also let's not forget the Python 3 migration fiasco that lasted ~2008-2018 and I still find myself porting librarie…
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> but you called the idea of finding a citation a "waste of time" so that's not very convincing. Not only a waste of time, but straight up illogical. If one wants to have a discussion with someone else, they can go to that someone else. There is no logical reason for me to be a pointless middleman even if time were infinite. Now, as fun as that tangent was, where is the nil implementation and hash map found in the gi…
The implementation is preexisting. Even if it was directly used, there would not be an implementation in the snippet. So it not being implemented in the snippet proves nothing. And what do you mean "someone else"? You're the one that said the compiler "certainly knows" how to do that.
It doesn't prove anything, but is what we've been talking about. Indeed, there is nothing to prove. Never was. What is it with this weird obsession you have with being convinced by something? Nobody was ever trying to convince you of anything, nor would there be any reason to ever try to. That would be a pointless endeavour.
> And what do you mean "someone else"?
He who wrote the "citation".