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I Quit Spotify

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Re: I Quit Spotify

#51
Those of us who aren't deterred by self-hosting, I highly recommend using Roon. It allows you to use your own MP3s/FLACs/Wav, use Tidal/Qobyz for HQ streaming of things you don't have, and the best recommendation engine I've seen in music.

Re: I Quit Spotify

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Don't get me wrong, I've started moving away from Spotify, but not entirely for these reasons. Music to me is mostly one big playlist and a few smaller playlists from the same library of my music. And where my music doesn't get randomly yanked because the artist had a fit with Spotify or license issues came up I never understood people's fetishization of albums and "enjoying" an album and all the music app interfaces…

I think, in the olden days you would be the guy who has a favorite radio station, tunes to it, and just let it run. That's what I do in the car anyway ;) Nothing's wrong about that. However, there is no need to denigrate other people's preferences with poor wording. You do you, they do they. There is no harm in the way anybody likes their music.

BTW, there is winamp-js, which is Winamp in your browser. I think the Winamp clone AIMP has a web-interface, but I could be wrong.

Re: I Quit Spotify

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, but this is peak plebeian. I means to me you don't know how to appreciate music on a deep level, that you solely listen to "greatest hits" or genres/artists too base to be able to (or too commercial to even want to) create an album with an overarching aesthetic vision; not even talking about concept album, just having purpose in differences between tracks while still cultivati…

As far as flak, I think your point about album appreciation could be interesting if presented in a more constructive way. The tone of your comment comes across as somewhat condescending, which can make it harder for others to engage with the idea.

Sadly, I don't really think the question at hand is complex enough to be more constructive than the single sentence I used. But let's try: could you reduce a movie like "Taxi Driver" to a single scene and keep all of its value? I categorically state "no", but you could probably with sitcoms-with-background-laugh-tracks ("probably", my experience with them isn't very extensive).

Basically, some music is made to be digested in small, radio/club-sized pieces and I argue that most of it does so not to fulfill an artistic vision. There are some exceptions, using this opportunity to maximize "streamlining" (I mean, I listen to some Eurobeat, so I fully understand that) and St Exupery's famous "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away", but that's definitely not the rule.

Also, people already drew pretty good comparisons to opera and other stuff that loses too much by being listened on a single track basis.

Re: I Quit Spotify

#55
post #4

Don't get me wrong, I've started moving away from Spotify, but not entirely for these reasons. Music to me is mostly one big playlist and a few smaller playlists from the same library of my music. And where my music doesn't get randomly yanked because the artist had a fit with Spotify or license issues came up I never understood people's fetishization of albums and "enjoying" an album and all the music app interfaces…

I'm going to get a lot of flak for this, but this is peak plebeian. I means to me you don't know how to appreciate music on a deep level, that you solely listen to "greatest hits" or genres/artists too base to be able to (or too commercial to even want to) create an album with an overarching aesthetic vision; not even talking about concept album, just having purpose in differences between tracks while still cultivati…

let me flip it on you, i have entire albums i like as individual songs. but i don't put the record on the start, turn off shuffle and pretend to be of higher intelligence because i 'appreciate' the work the artist put in to it.

For sure there are albums that are like that, i just don't tend to listen to music like that. I listen to a song, i think "oh, i want to listen to that next", queue it up and forget i wanted to listen to it until it comes up and i feel good about hearing that song i wanted.

And definitely far from the greatest hits only - that's a pretty stretchy conclusion.

edit: the problem i have at the end of the day, is forcing EVERYONE to organize their music and listening like that because the artist says "this is how you must listen to music". Sometimes i know the song i like and i just want to pick them out instead of browsing through another layer of albums that hide the list of songs by an artist.

Re: I Quit Spotify

#56

I quit Spotify a few years ago as well. They kept changing stuff, breaking my work flow, with every change it felt like there was more friction to listen to the music and podcasts I wanted, and less friction to listen to algorithmically selected slop I didn't want to listen to. Eventually I just said fuck it. I don't need this source of stress and frustration in my life. I've never looked back. I'm on youtube music n…

Yes, this is all over the place sadly. It’s so bad that I barely learn an interface since things are moving around constantly in all apps and websites, so I end up figuring things out every time I need them. I don’t even expect a workflow anymore. I just expect to search through shitty counterintuitive interfaces until I sometimes find what I’m looking for.

Re: I Quit Spotify

#58
The whole article is just someone's opinion about how much they don't like spotify that they had to share it with the world. Obviously use what works for you. Use spotify if you like it, use youtube music if you like it, use radio channels if you like them, use any podcast app if you like it, like no one cares about how much you hate a specific app, stop using it and move on :D

Re: I Quit Spotify

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as flak, I think your point about album appreciation could be interesting if presented in a more constructive way. The tone of your comment comes across as somewhat condescending, which can make it harder for others to engage with the idea.

Sadly, I don't really think the question at hand is complex enough to be more constructive than the single sentence I used. But let's try: could you reduce a movie like "Taxi Driver" to a single scene and keep all of its value? I categorically state "no", but you could probably with sitcoms-with-background-laugh-tracks ("probably", my experience with them isn't very extensive). Basically, some music is made to be dig…

and all those albums with filler "intro" and "intermission" tracks?

Re: I Quit Spotify

#60
I just started using and paying for Spotify, having been a diehard radio listener all my life (and, in a previous period of my career, worked in the sector). It was more of a reaction against radio rather than being in favour of Spotify, though. I was tired of my listening being characterised by inane commercials, constant depressing negative news, DJs telling us that it's some stranger's birthday, long interviews with some jerk I've never heard of, endless dreadful tracks that I wouldn't choose to listen to.

It got to the point where I couldn't figure out why on earth anyone would listen to radio when you can get all the music you like, with no ads, no news, and no Dave Doubledecks, for a few pounds a month. After a couple of weeks of using it, it started recommending music I'd never heard before, and really cool Scottish and Welsh folk music that the radio stations here would never touch, so I've discovered really cool stuff through it. I love that I can tell it never to show me certain artists - for instance, if I never heard Eminem again in my life it'd be too soon, so I've told it to never recommend any tracks by him, whereas local radio plays him incessantly.

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