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OpenStreetMap Is Turning 20

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Re: OpenStreetMap Is Turning 20

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I primarily use Osmand. Organicmaps is another option.

Which one is better? Coming from someone who doesnt know much about OSM, what I immediately notice is that accoridng to the play store osmand has in-app payments whereas organic maps doesn't.

Osmand is free, in app purchases are for larger offline download map size and other things, IIRC.

https://osmand.net/docs/user/purchases/

Re: OpenStreetMap Is Turning 20

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OpenStreetMap barely has any users in many areas. It seems likely enough that a modest amount of traction would lead to people noticing out of date information much more quickly.

be the change you want. Start fixing your area.

That's how I approach OSM: I can't fix the world, but I can keep my own local patch up to date.

Other people do other things, and that's great too.

Re: OpenStreetMap Is Turning 20

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OpenStreetMap barely has any users in many areas. It seems likely enough that a modest amount of traction would lead to people noticing out of date information much more quickly.

be the change you want. Start fixing your area.

I added all the shops and addresses once already. Seems fine to not be all over keeping them up to date if there aren't that many users.

I have been focusing on adding POIs throughout the US. Probably only a few tens of thousands so far though.

Re: OpenStreetMap Is Turning 20

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OSM is the only implementation of maps that has been done with privacy in mind. It's a real shame that DDG chose to drop it for a much worse alternative. OSM has been an absolute necessity when out hiking in the sticks, and knowing that someone has done work to map this trail out without expectations from me. It's also led to many useful derived maps like public toilets and parking and accessibility. I've always made…

I'm an avid cyclist and always update routes, document drinking fountains, shelters, bicycle repair stations and update businesses that I see need it.

Thanks for all your input! How long does it usually take you to complete a single update? I'm curious about helping out with the effort in my neighbourhood.

Re: OpenStreetMap Is Turning 20

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post #67

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I primarily use Osmand. Organicmaps is another option.

Which one is better? Coming from someone who doesnt know much about OSM, what I immediately notice is that accoridng to the play store osmand has in-app payments whereas organic maps doesn't.

I’d summarise it like this: * Organic Maps: simpler, nicer, more intuitive UI. Better for most general use cases. * OsmAnd: a somewhat clunky UI, but more powerful and flexible. Better for advanced use cases.

Organic Maps is a better starting point IMHO.

Re: OpenStreetMap Is Turning 20

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Is there a good UI for OpenStreetMap which is as good as Google Maps? I really want to contribute to OSM but the UI is not as simple as Google Maps. I do keep putting things on Google Maps but i have started to feel guilty about it.

Best (simplest) options for contribution are:

- StreetComplete - gamification of adding missing properties for existing objects. Consider it as most basic and limited

- https://every-door.app/ - the best option to update and add amenities (shops, restaurants, etc) on the go.

- iD browser editor available at https://www.openstreetmap.org/ - you will need at least this complexity to add objects with geometry (linear or area)

Re: OpenStreetMap Is Turning 20

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StreetComplete is fun for casual contributions, but what OSM really needs is good local mappers. You can tell when a place has local mappers updating and monitoring changes in the real world. Even just taking care of the coming and going of shops is really useful. People who visit your area using apps like OsmAnd and OrganicMaps use that data!

I cannot describe [0] my pleasure and satisfaction when, visiting Germany, we found an icecream shop closed. We'd stopped by with the assumption Google Maps would have the correct hours; they did not, and we carried on without icecream. OSM, on the other hand, correctly showed the shop as closed for the day. [0] I can't, but my fiancee used the words "impossibly smug"

It's the business owners responsibility to publish their opening hours on Google Maps, Apple Maps and on the web. Most don't give a damn about their own business, at most putting their hours on Google Maps if they remember.

Re: OpenStreetMap Is Turning 20

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I cannot describe [0] my pleasure and satisfaction when, visiting Germany, we found an icecream shop closed. We'd stopped by with the assumption Google Maps would have the correct hours; they did not, and we carried on without icecream. OSM, on the other hand, correctly showed the shop as closed for the day. [0] I can't, but my fiancee used the words "impossibly smug"

When a huge highway bridge collapsed in Genoa, I checked OSM a few hours later, and someone had already updated the road segment as permanently closed Video has clips of the bridge falling and aftermath: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53628580

That contribution was initially done by me :-)

Re: OpenStreetMap Is Turning 20

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Is there a good UI for OpenStreetMap which is as good as Google Maps? I really want to contribute to OSM but the UI is not as simple as Google Maps. I do keep putting things on Google Maps but i have started to feel guilty about it.

Best (simplest) options for contribution are: - StreetComplete - gamification of adding missing properties for existing objects. Consider it as most basic and limited - https://every-door.app/ - the best option to update and add amenities (shops, restaurants, etc) on the go. - iD browser editor available at https://www.openstreetmap.org/ - you will need at least this complexity to add objects with geometry (linear or…

I have both of these. Street complete is not for day to day use. That means I won't open it in time of need and find a chance to add something.

Every door is a better one but still not as simple as Google Maps. I do believe we need an OSM wrapper which has as simple UI as Google maps.

Re: OpenStreetMap Is Turning 20

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I'm an avid cyclist and always update routes, document drinking fountains, shelters, bicycle repair stations and update businesses that I see need it.

Thanks for all your input! How long does it usually take you to complete a single update? I'm curious about helping out with the effort in my neighbourhood.

I just edit OSM with the in browser editor, and it only takes a minute or so. Once you get the workflow down, it isn't too bad.

Their wiki is really good also, so feel free to take a peek. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contribute_map_data

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