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Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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Maybe if Chromium was written in a memory-safe language there would be fewer zero-days?

Yes, and that's why Chromium moved to allow Rust code (pretty much like they did for Android).

They said some of the code can be rewritten in Rust but majority of the code cannot. Therefore they are stuck with C++ forever. Scary thing to think about.

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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New Reddit or Old Reddit?

New Reddit rendering “properly” is as useful as a chocolate fire guard. Do you want to view this content on the app? You Can Only View This Content In The App, THE APP is the WAY, JUST FUCKING DOWNLOAD THE APP!!! At least on mobile.

You will be registered, email verified and data mined or you can just go straight to hell.

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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Why not just fork chromium with all the Google analytics/tracking removed?

There's ungoogled chromium for that. Also doing that doesn't solve the standards problem we currently have. Google is able to push through any "standard". And those standards "unwittingly" help them maintain their search/ad dominance or prevent competitors. For example see manifest v3 or FloC (a.k.a Topics API). Once they gain enough traction and become indispensible, you either implement them or risk losing users.

But why would this change with a new browser written from scratch?

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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There's still zero day exploits found in chromium, wouldn't using using this put you at a huge risk of running into malware in the wild that this browser can't protect against?

I somewhat wonder—Firefox and Chrome are in a constant race to have the best JavaScript performance. In general, the sites I want to browse use minimal JavaScript, prudently, if at all, just where it is strictly necessary to add little dynamic features. So, I don’t really care about JavaScript performance at all. Optimization sometimes introduces additional complexity, which might open up the possibility of security…

> wonder if there’s room for a browser engine that ditches performance and just focuses on correctness and safety

Isn't this just the noscript, which breaks most sites to a degree where they're impossible to use or load?

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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The x64.dmg release[1] requires macOS 13+, why? [1] https://web.crabnebula.cloud/verso/verso-nightly/releases

Apple makes it relatively difficult to support old versions of their OS. You pretty much have to keep an old computer around and just not update its software. So it might not have been a conscious choice, rather they just didn't go to the extra effort to support older versions.

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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For everything. Swift is—at least in theory—a general purpose language, it's not exclusively for Apple technologies. > First off, Swift has both memory & data race safety (as of v6). It's also a modern language with solid ergonomics. > Something that matters to us a lot is OO. Web specs & browser internals tend to be highly object-oriented, and life is easier when you can model specs closely in your code. Swift has f…

Swift is useless outside of macOS/iOS dev… the thing doesn’t even have namespacing. I don’t know for what reason someone would use it outside for Apple environment.

Objective-C had some minimal adoption outside of Apple (probably due to NextStep nostalgia), so if Objective-C managed to get some traction, Swift will do it to, probably.

However, Apple's history is very much stacked against Swift becoming a mainstream language outside of Apple's platform.

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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Every time a new browser appears and is applauded by HN, a NetSurf dev opens a beer...

And a Dillo developer pours un café con caña .

I prefer the term caffè corretto, since the coffee clearly needs to be corrected by applying booze.

Re: Verso – Web browser built on top of the Servo web engine

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There is old.reddit.com, reddit.com and new.reddit.com. new.reddit.com is not the same site as reddit.com!

TIL. new.reddit seems to be a return to old.reddit in a lot of ways. It also seems really really fast unlike the current www.reddit. If they remove some annoying ads I might even be convinced to stop using old.

new.reddit seems almost... sane. Like they kicked out whoever pushed/implemented reddit aka the current version and figured out that old.reddit had a lot of virtues.
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