Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Firefox Browser Ported to HaikuOS

discuss.haiku-os.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

51–60 of 223 posts

Re: Firefox Browser Ported to HaikuOS

#51

Post by spookie »

badsectoracula wrote: post #47
pjmlp wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With a fraction of the userbase it had 20 years ago, thanks to everyone that keeps shipping Chrome with their applications, testing only with Chrome developer tools, and so on. Anyway, congratulations to anyone involved in the port.

Wouldn't 20 years ago have less people using Mozilla/Firefox since everyone was still using IE6? I remember around that time i was still encountering several (public, not internal) sites that refused to work with anything that wasn't IE6. I think at least nowadays people try to pretend they care about web standards.

Well, that hegemony happened by the end of the Netscape days, which prompted the infamous United States v. Microsoft Corp. case.

Re: Firefox Browser Ported to HaikuOS

#52

Post by wizzwizz4 »

szszrk wrote: post #48
graemep wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The interface is so incredibly snappy So that feels like its 20 years in the past > there is a lot of basics missing such as WiFi support. So that sounds like 20 years in the past too Where does the future bit come in?

Future comes in at point were we actually circle back. "Black is always in fashion" kind of thing. Ditch modern ad endpoints (a.k.a. operating systems) and go back to those distros we used 20 years ago. Accept that those don't support DRM, carefully choose our hardware (as its barely supported), and stick to it until it dies. The thing i miss most from that time is Window Maker. I'd love to have again those tiny tile…

Window Maker still exists. There's an ongoing Wayland port / reimagining: https://github.com/phkaeser/wlmaker.

Re: Firefox Browser Ported to HaikuOS

#53

Post by bruce511 »

squarefoot wrote: post #11
chucky wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's more likely the original BeOS source code contains proprietary code licensed from third-parties, which means someone would have to spend significant effort on figuring out what can and cannot be released.

Just another proof that copyright laws must be heavily reformed asap because they continue to harm development also in cases where any reason of protecting some company's IP is long gone.

Is it though? I think there's scope to improve the laws around intellectual property, but I feel like it's a stretch to suggest that the lack of BeOS source code "harms development".

Re: Firefox Browser Ported to HaikuOS

#54

Post by szszrk »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #52
szszrk wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Future comes in at point were we actually circle back. "Black is always in fashion" kind of thing. Ditch modern ad endpoints (a.k.a. operating systems) and go back to those distros we used 20 years ago. Accept that those don't support DRM, carefully choose our hardware (as its barely supported), and stick to it until it dies. The thing i miss most from that time is Window Maker. I'd love to have again those tiny tile…

Window Maker still exists. There's an ongoing Wayland port / reimagining: https://github.com/phkaeser/wlmaker .

That's actually amazing. Can't wait for dockable apps support. That could be a killer app for operators - half desktop, half monitoring dashboard, haha :) I can already see those dockable tiles with Prometheus metrics.

Re: Firefox Browser Ported to HaikuOS

#55

Post by tonyhart7 »

actionfromafar wrote: post #21

Firefox ported to HaikuOS, before it's ported to Windows XP. :-) (If you need a modern browser on XP, in the meantime try the Chrome port: https://win32subsystem.live/supermium/ )

"before it's ported to Windows XP"

what does this even mean???, I remember using firefox on windows xp back then, the reason they stop make a release version for windows xp because its too old and people already move on to newer windows 7 (microsoft already stop supporting it)

Re: Firefox Browser Ported to HaikuOS

#56

Post by llm_trw »

spookie wrote: post #51
badsectoracula wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't 20 years ago have less people using Mozilla/Firefox since everyone was still using IE6? I remember around that time i was still encountering several (public, not internal) sites that refused to work with anything that wasn't IE6. I think at least nowadays people try to pretend they care about web standards.

Well, that hegemony happened by the end of the Netscape days, which prompted the infamous United States v. Microsoft Corp. case.

We're getting the United States v. Google case so hopefully history doesn't repeat.

Re: Firefox Browser Ported to HaikuOS

#57

Post by llm_trw »

desdenova wrote: post #30
graemep wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The interface is so incredibly snappy So that feels like its 20 years in the past > there is a lot of basics missing such as WiFi support. So that sounds like 20 years in the past too Where does the future bit come in?

Exactly what I thought as well. UIs get increasingly slower as time passes, not snappier. We had snappy UIs in the 80s and 90s.

We had bloated UIs in the 80s and 90s, it's just that what's come after is so much worse.

Try using the old analog control systems where responses are basically instant. It feels like the controls are reading your mind.

Re: Firefox Browser Ported to HaikuOS

#58

Post by usrnm »

llm_trw wrote: post #56
spookie wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, that hegemony happened by the end of the Netscape days, which prompted the infamous United States v. Microsoft Corp. case.

We're getting the United States v. Google case so hopefully history doesn't repeat.

I actually hope that history does repeat itself, and google gets severely punished

Re: Firefox Browser Ported to HaikuOS

#59

Post by pjmlp »

badsectoracula wrote: post #47
pjmlp wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With a fraction of the userbase it had 20 years ago, thanks to everyone that keeps shipping Chrome with their applications, testing only with Chrome developer tools, and so on. Anyway, congratulations to anyone involved in the port.

Wouldn't 20 years ago have less people using Mozilla/Firefox since everyone was still using IE6? I remember around that time i was still encountering several (public, not internal) sites that refused to work with anything that wasn't IE6. I think at least nowadays people try to pretend they care about web standards.

As someone doing Web development during 1999 - 2002, on a dotcom startup, there were enough people using Mozzilla browsers.

Re: Firefox Browser Ported to HaikuOS

#60

Post by IshKebab »

desdenova wrote: post #30
graemep wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The interface is so incredibly snappy So that feels like its 20 years in the past > there is a lot of basics missing such as WiFi support. So that sounds like 20 years in the past too Where does the future bit come in?

Exactly what I thought as well. UIs get increasingly slower as time passes, not snappier. We had snappy UIs in the 80s and 90s.

I don't remember Windows 95 & MS Word 6 being especially snappy. I think this is nostalgia.
Post reply on HN