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I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

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Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

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It saves cost and none of the features of USB-C (speed, power delivery etc) are supported. Makes sense.

the price difference from usb to usb-c is less than 2 cents

devil's advocate: cables for an average user is a different story. also not to forget the vast range of cables already existing out there.

also "proper" usb-c support is another can of worms, and maybe sticking to an older standard gives you freedom from all that.

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

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Thanks for a great product! A (small?) ask. Can we have instruction timings please? Like how many cycles SMLAL (signed multiply long, with accumulate) takes? Will there be an official development board with all 48 GPIOs exposed?

Cortex-M33 timings aren't documented, but one of our security consultants has made a lot of progress reverse engineering them to support his work on trace stacking for differential power analysis of our AES implementation. I've asked him to write this up to go in a future rev of the datasheet. No official 48 GPIO board, I think: this is slightly intentional because it creates market space for our partners to do somet…

> I've asked him to write this up to go in a future rev of the datasheet.

Thanks!

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

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I have given some thought to a two-wheeled electric tractor for dealing with mud -- horse paddocks turn into basically a 1-foot deep slurry after heavy rain and it can be easier to deal with something small that sinks through the mud, down to solid ground than something using large floatation tires. Additional problem with large tires is that they tend to throw mud around, making everyone nearby even more dirty. I ha…

Your description fit what I've seen for rice farming, whose machines usually use bike-like tires.

I’m curious there. I’ve seen rice paddies plowed in Vietnam and the tractors used wide paddle-like wheels. I saw two varieties: one with what looked like more normal wheels but much wider, and one which was of metal with fins, very much akin to a paddle steamer, though still with some kind of flat surface that must have distributed weight.

Would they be more effective with thin wheels? Both humans and cattle seem to sink in a few inches and stop; I don’t know what’s under the layer of mud and what makes up a rice paddy.

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

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Do you have any protection against power/clock glitching attacks?

Yes, several approaches. More here: https://x.com/ghidraninja/status/1821570157933912462

Unrolled for those without accounts: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1821570157933912462.html

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

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You run into issues if you try to implement something like RMII, which requires an incoming 50MHz clock. There's an implementation out there which feeds the clock to a GPIO clock input - but because it can't feed the PLL from it and the PIO is driven from the system clock that means your entire chip runs at 50MHz. This has some nasty implications, such as being unable to transmit at 100meg and having to do a lot of p…

Just to clarify, and it sounds like the answer is yes, this is a problem even with an external 50MHz clock signal?

As far as I understood the explanation, the incoming ("external") 50Mhz clock signal is a core requirement of the spec: all of those workarounds are just what is required to meet that spec, and be able to TX/RX using the protocol at all.

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

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Right? Bidirectional capability at those speeds would be incredible for the price of this chip. Either way, still looking forward to see what people cook up with it, and hopefully I'll find a use for it as well. Maybe combine it with some cheap 1920x1080 portable monitors to have some beautiful dashboards around the house or something...

1920x1080 30 Hz DVI would require running RP2350 at least at 311 MHz ((1920 * 1080 * 30Hz * 10) / 2). Probably a bit more to account for minimal horizontal and vertical blanking etc. Multiplier 10 comes from 8b10b encoding. To fit in 520 kB of RAM, the framebuffer would need to be just 1 bpp, 2 colors (1920 * 1080 * 1bpp = 259200 bytes). From PSRAM I guess you could achieve 4 bpp, 16 colors. 24-bit RGB full color wou…

Hmmm yeah, I haven't done the math and was maybe a bit too ambitious/optimistic.

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

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> 1 × USB 1.1 controller and PHY, with host and device support Sure, after integrating USB 2.0 HS or 1Gb-Ethernet the pico2-board will cost more than $5. So, integrated high-speed interfacing with PC was not a nice-to-have option (for special chip flavor)?

>USB 2.0 HS 480 Mbps SERDES > or 1Gb-Ethernet 1.25 Gbps SERDES

RP1 I/O chip on RPi5 has so many high-speed interfaces. I've been thinking RP2350 could be some smart I/O chip for a PC/notebook/network attached computers (with only 1 necessary high-speed connection).

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

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> English, so weird Borrowed from just-as-weird French "piquer" - to stab or jab.

As other more than 30% of English words [1]: [1] Is English just badly pronounced French [video]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40495393

No, French is badly pronounced French - the English (Norman) versions are often closer to the original pronunciation

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

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> It overclocks insanely well

says the guy with engineering samples and creme of the creme silicon parts... i expect most that will actually be available when they do to their normal schedule of scraping the literal bottom of the barrel to keep their always empty stocks that will not be the case.

Re: I got almost all of my wishes granted with RP2350

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> 1 × USB 1.1 controller and PHY, with host and device support Sure, after integrating USB 2.0 HS or 1Gb-Ethernet the pico2-board will cost more than $5. So, integrated high-speed interfacing with PC was not a nice-to-have option (for special chip flavor)?

I think the target here is low-power peripherals rather than speedy peripherals, and the price is very nice for that :)

Here [1] someone asked to make RP1 I/O chip available, but actually RP2350 is what would fit the purpose.

[1] https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/rp1-the-silicon-controlling...

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