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Re: Eyechat

#51

What we really need for this is on-screen cameras, so you can actually look someone in the eye. Now, you only look them in the eye when you look away from them at the camera. And when you look them in the eye you're just looking at their mouth.

We’ve needed this – easy, direct eye contact – for quite a long time. I keep waiting for someone to develop it. I think that Apple has a relevant patent, but I don’t know how much content is in the patent, and I’ve never heard that Apple has done anything with it.

Apple uses it for its Eye Contact feature in FaceTime

Re: Eyechat

#53
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You all are comfortable just enabling your camera for some random site so it can capture your face?

You know, someone can also capture your face while you just walking on the street? Given, the different people require different levels of privacy.

One pertinent difference is that a web property may correlate your captured biometric data with whatever they get out of your connection, making entity resolution much easier and more valuable.

ELI5 when you visit online they have a handle on you.

Re: Eyechat

#54
post #9

Another hit from Neal. I wonder (and envy, in a good way) where does he gets the time to work and all this wonderful little games.

Doesn't he do this full time?

But there's no attempt to monetize anything...

... which is part of why everything seems so polished, they each express an idea without compromise, and when he's done he can just be done.

Someone could make a pretty good museum exhibit from his site.

Re: Eyechat

#55

What we really need for this is on-screen cameras, so you can actually look someone in the eye. Now, you only look them in the eye when you look away from them at the camera. And when you look them in the eye you're just looking at their mouth.

They're slowly coming to market:

https://www.androidauthority.com/under-display-selfie-camera...

Re: Eyechat

#56

What we really need for this is on-screen cameras, so you can actually look someone in the eye. Now, you only look them in the eye when you look away from them at the camera. And when you look them in the eye you're just looking at their mouth.

They're slowly coming to market: https://www.androidauthority.com/under-display-selfie-camera...

The claim why these aren't adopted is that they aren't high enough quality. Why not include both a standard and undersceen front-facing camera and get the best of both worlds? Could use the under-screen camera for video chat and the standard one for everything else. Or even use some AI algorithm to merge the data from the standard camera with the under-screen one to increase quality.

Re: Eyechat

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're slowly coming to market: https://www.androidauthority.com/under-display-selfie-camera...

The claim why these aren't adopted is that they aren't high enough quality. Why not include both a standard and undersceen front-facing camera and get the best of both worlds? Could use the under-screen camera for video chat and the standard one for everything else. Or even use some AI algorithm to merge the data from the standard camera with the under-screen one to increase quality.

People want quality selfies more than eye to eye calls

Re: Eyechat

#58

What we really need for this is on-screen cameras, so you can actually look someone in the eye. Now, you only look them in the eye when you look away from them at the camera. And when you look them in the eye you're just looking at their mouth.

Earliest expected release for an Under Display Camera (UDC) iPhone right now is iPhone 18 in 2026:

>According to The Elec, LG Innotek has entered the preliminary development of the UDC, which sits under the display and does not result in a visible hole in the panel when the camera is not in use...

>Apple will then adopt the UDC in 2027's "Pro" iPhone models, according to respected analyst Ross Young of research firm Display Supply Chain Consultant

https://www.macrumors.com/2023/12/06/iphone-under-display-ca...

Re: Eyechat

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't he do this full time?

But there's no attempt to monetize anything... ... which is part of why everything seems so polished, they each express an idea without compromise, and when he's done he can just be done. Someone could make a pretty good museum exhibit from his site.

> But there's no attempt to monetize anything...

Maybe for the pages you tried, but I see ads on these pages:

https://neal.fun/infinite-craft/ (bottom)

https://neal.fun/perfect-circle/ (right)

https://neal.fun/days-since-incident/ (bottom, near the end, above the "you may also like" section)

The last one occasionally fails to show ads due to some javascript error (visible in the console). The same error was also observed on a few other pages with the "you may also like" footer, so my guess is that some ads were supposed to be visible on many pages, but were accidentally hidden due to some configuration issue.

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