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Re: Who Took the Cocaine Out of Coca-Cola?

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Post by amy-petrik-214 » Wed, Aug 07, 2024, 1:38 AM UTC

cykros wrote: post #90

srean wrote: post #74

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That begs the question what do they do with the methyl benzoyl ecgonine. I suppose it ends up in lidocaine and other variants.

Cocaine is also a schedule 2 substance, meaning it is actually approved and sold for medical use. Not a lot, mind you, and mostly only in hospital settings for local anaesthesia purposes, but it was absolutely found in the catalogs we used to use for doing the ordering when I worked as a pharmacy technician.

Local and global anesthesia use it often, actually even though you'd think it's the anesthesiologist that uses it (because they are known to be drug fiends) usually it's the surgeon who makes use of cocaine. I remember in my medical training that old surgeon Dr. Jackson, he'd have that thick moustache that'd always look like it'd been dragged through flour. But then he'd say "let me show you how to do surgery young paduans" and I'll be damned if he didn't perform 18 whipples, 13 trepinations, and 32 colonostomies in an hard-drivin' 48 hour continuous surgery jamboree

Re: Who Took the Cocaine Out of Coca-Cola?

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Post by mptest » Thu, Aug 08, 2024, 4:03 PM UTC

pas wrote: post #108

mptest wrote: post #96

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>why it got the prohibition treatment which ALWAYS fails. it leads to fentanyl instead of regulated pure heroin which we tax. It leads to the money that could go to put these people in addict centers in to drug lords' pockets. people are going to use it anyway. prohibition does nothing but fill our jails with minorities. Tax it, limit daily use, use the billions flooding to violent cartels to fund social solutions to…

Yes, yes, exactly. Thank you for following up with this! I got disillusioned, burnt out, fucking fed up and let down almost all at the same time after reading the comments here. (Especially about how everything is just bad, fucked up, suboptimal, prime broken windows example, and so on.) The billions required to build housing-first luxury rehabs with hookers and hypnotherapists for everyone are there ... spent on the…

Great addition. the massive misallocation of a militarized police is another source to solve these problems. But unfortunately for too long the conservative mindset of "punish the addict" has provided the electoral support that led to anti drug legislation prevailing over plain reason.

All while the smarter ones upstream knew it was all a lie and just a way to screw over groups they always wanted to screw over, not even getting in to the benefits their corporate masters gain from the free labor of prisoners who get 20y for dealing something that should be dealt over a regulated counter and the police force to capture those that get caught. All while systemically undermining and undeserving areas who have the most need of social programs. Hopefully logic eventually prevails. as shrooms and dmt become legal in some places i hope we can eventually do the logical thing and stop funding violence and start funding social progress.

Re: Who Took the Cocaine Out of Coca-Cola?

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Post by katzinsky » Thu, Aug 08, 2024, 4:23 PM UTC

mptest wrote: post #7

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #3

TL; DR “While the medical profession had seen nothing wrong with tonics such as Coca-Cola advertising themselves to white, middle-class consumers for their aphrodisiac qualities, it became an entirely different matter when Black people used cocaine... Candler fought back against the damage that cocaine’s declining reputation did to his brand’s reputation, arguing that the small quantity of coca extract in Coke was me…

>"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people," former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper's writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday. >"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuan…

I don't know. I used to say this but then you look at places where it's been done like Canada and the PNW and the results are pretty disappointing.

I think the answer to drug use is to make life worth being sober for rather than monkeying around with the law.

Re: Who Took the Cocaine Out of Coca-Cola?

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Post by pas » Mon, Aug 12, 2024, 10:18 PM UTC

mptest wrote: post #112

pas wrote: post #108

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Yes, yes, exactly. Thank you for following up with this! I got disillusioned, burnt out, fucking fed up and let down almost all at the same time after reading the comments here. (Especially about how everything is just bad, fucked up, suboptimal, prime broken windows example, and so on.) The billions required to build housing-first luxury rehabs with hookers and hypnotherapists for everyone are there ... spent on the…

Great addition. the massive misallocation of a militarized police is another source to solve these problems. But unfortunately for too long the conservative mindset of "punish the addict" has provided the electoral support that led to anti drug legislation prevailing over plain reason. All while the smarter ones upstream knew it was all a lie and just a way to screw over groups they always wanted to screw over, not e…

Not to mention the destruction of any trace of an actually productive economy in these areas. Prison labor is anything but free. It's extremely inefficient, ridiculously subsidized by public funds (direct costs of the whole criminal-justice system, removing people from the labor force, the cost of lack of rehabilitation, etc.)