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Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by tapoxi » Thu, Aug 08, 2024, 3:17 PM UTC

gkoberger wrote: post #3

phartenfeller wrote: post #2

A screenshot of how it looks would have been helpful. I guess this is in response to Arc browsers design. https://arc.net/

Maybe (probably?), but back when I worked at Mozilla in ~2010 "Tree Style Tabs" was one of the most popular add-ons. Here's a screenshot of what the feature looks like: https://www.ghacks.net/2024/06/25/you-can-try-vertical-tabs-...

They unfortunately ruined TST with the switch to WebExtensions because it could no longer replace the top tab bar. There were hacks you could do by modifying something in your Firefox profile directory.

Bizarre to me that they didn't take TST's popularity as a hint of supporting vertical tabs as a native feature until almost 7 years later.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by pantulis » Thu, Aug 08, 2024, 3:18 PM UTC

philipov wrote: post #14

How do you nest one tab under another? If you can't, I'll keep using the Tree Style Tab extension instead.

It does not seem to be currently possible. I guess they are working on it, this is just a first step.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by calvinmorrison » Thu, Aug 08, 2024, 3:18 PM UTC

osbulbul wrote: post #6

I wish all browsers has first class vertical tabs support and split view. I am really tired of resource hog, unstable arc. Want to return back to traditional browsers but they are not supporting vertical tabs like arc did. And arc turn its face to AI instead of stability (I guess) because of investors. So we are lonely in the dark :)

> I wish all browsers has first class vertical tabs support and split view.

I wish UI toolkits just came fully loaded and let me spin views and panels and anything in any which way I liked.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by FlamingMoe » Thu, Aug 08, 2024, 3:20 PM UTC

osbulbul wrote: post #6

I wish all browsers has first class vertical tabs support and split view. I am really tired of resource hog, unstable arc. Want to return back to traditional browsers but they are not supporting vertical tabs like arc did. And arc turn its face to AI instead of stability (I guess) because of investors. So we are lonely in the dark :)

Brave has vertical tabs, and a helpful grouping feature. Highly recommend.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by generalizations » Thu, Aug 08, 2024, 3:20 PM UTC

pantulis wrote: post #15

osbulbul wrote: post #6

I wish all browsers has first class vertical tabs support and split view. I am really tired of resource hog, unstable arc. Want to return back to traditional browsers but they are not supporting vertical tabs like arc did. And arc turn its face to AI instead of stability (I guess) because of investors. So we are lonely in the dark :)

Most browsers except Chrome have some sort of vertical tabs support. - Safari (Mac) has a vertical tabs, but a very confusing UI, mixing Profiles, Windows and Tab Groups (only 1 level). - Edge has Workspaces and Vertical Tabs, along with Groups (only 1 level). - Chrome does not have vertical tabs and has 1 level groups - Vivaldi has vertical tabs and groups, not sure how many levels of grouping. - Firefox has Contain…

I'm surprised that none of them support tree hierarchies (like tree style tabs / sideberry), which IMO is the reason to use 'vertical tabs' in the first place.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by wenc » Thu, Aug 08, 2024, 3:22 PM UTC

Naive question, why are vertical tabs in the sidebar desirable?

I tried TST once but didn’t get why they were bettter than horizontal tabs. I might be missing something.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by osbulbul » Thu, Aug 08, 2024, 3:22 PM UTC

ss48 wrote: post #9

osbulbul wrote: post #6

I wish all browsers has first class vertical tabs support and split view. I am really tired of resource hog, unstable arc. Want to return back to traditional browsers but they are not supporting vertical tabs like arc did. And arc turn its face to AI instead of stability (I guess) because of investors. So we are lonely in the dark :)

You could check out Vivaldi. The split view is pretty robust. The Vertical tabs can be on left or right, and allow one level of tab grouping.

I think I only didn't try Vivaldi :) thanks, I will definitely look

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by nixosbestos » Thu, Aug 08, 2024, 3:24 PM UTC

It's so bad compared to Sideberry. But hey, yet another way to view bookmarks and synced tabs that don't expose actually important functionality. Do they at least have the courage to excise Firefox View or whatever that useless pile was called?

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by osbulbul » Thu, Aug 08, 2024, 3:25 PM UTC

pantulis wrote: post #15

osbulbul wrote: post #6

I wish all browsers has first class vertical tabs support and split view. I am really tired of resource hog, unstable arc. Want to return back to traditional browsers but they are not supporting vertical tabs like arc did. And arc turn its face to AI instead of stability (I guess) because of investors. So we are lonely in the dark :)

Most browsers except Chrome have some sort of vertical tabs support. - Safari (Mac) has a vertical tabs, but a very confusing UI, mixing Profiles, Windows and Tab Groups (only 1 level). - Edge has Workspaces and Vertical Tabs, along with Groups (only 1 level). - Chrome does not have vertical tabs and has 1 level groups - Vivaldi has vertical tabs and groups, not sure how many levels of grouping. - Firefox has Contain…

Actually somehow Safari has fastest load times, it just feel faster than anything. But man, I think it has ugliest UI :( I want to use Safari inside arc UI

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by PetitPrince » Thu, Aug 08, 2024, 3:26 PM UTC

Even if this is catch-up with respect with the other browser, I think that this mean that there would finally be a non-hacky way to disable the tab bar (i.e. a toggle rather than something that on userChrome.css).

I'm perfectly happy to have only basic vertical tab functionality on vanilla Firefox and Tree Style Tabs or Sideberry for power users. Presumably there would also be API that makes the life of piro (main dev of TST) and mbnuqw (main dev of Sideberry) easier ?