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The Story of Samsung's failed deal with iFixit, as told by iFixit's CEO

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Re: The Story of Samsung's failed deal with iFixit, as told by iFixit's CEO

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At least the samsung phone I bought scores pretty well on repairability in this review https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_xcover6_pro_scores_hig...

Although I'd love to know what iFixit thinks, esp since I'm hoping to hang on to it for a few more years at least. Was hoping to find a general database of phones, but it looks like they don't do a ton of reviews. Only 21 smartphones listed here, including both apple and android. https://www.ifixit.com/repairability/smartphone-repairabilit... Of which only 3 were samsung.

Re: The Story of Samsung's failed deal with iFixit, as told by iFixit's CEO

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In my opinion, if you are going position yourself as a neutral arbiter of device repairability, it does not pass the smell test to enter into for-profit business relationships with the companies manufacturing the devices you rate. Providing consumers with information on where to find reputable companies selling repair parts would be a much more palatable alternative to selling them yourself. > “I don’t know why Samsu…

Access to parts and repair information usually requires entering in to some sort of business relationship. Especially when highly regulated components (radios, telephones) are involved.

Re: The Story of Samsung's failed deal with iFixit, as told by iFixit's CEO

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> Wiens sips a Diet Coke and settles in as I start explaining the framework of our conversation. He interrupts me politely to get a big caveat out of the way related to confidentiality terms iFixit still has with Samsung. I really struggle to read these types of interviews. If I wanted to read the novel I would buy the book… but if I’m reading an article I don’t want the fluff…

Folks agreeing with this take should take a hard look at their attention spans and ability to focus and comprehend - it’s honestly really shocking to see how many people can’t handle sitting still and reading for 10 minutes (or fewer!) straight!

I should say I’ve struggled with this too, I have to be super mindful otherwise I’ll flip and skim and find myself distracted. But it is interesting there’s an embracing of this by many - “I always ask ChatGPT to summarize xyz.”

Re: The Story of Samsung's failed deal with iFixit, as told by iFixit's CEO

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At least the samsung phone I bought scores pretty well on repairability in this review https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_xcover6_pro_scores_hig... Although I'd love to know what iFixit thinks, esp since I'm hoping to hang on to it for a few more years at least. Was hoping to find a general database of phones, but it looks like they don't do a ton of reviews. Only 21 smartphones listed here, including both apple a…

Click the View Legacy Scores link. They have several older Samsungs (probably 20-25), dating back to the Samsung S 4G in 2011.

https://www.ifixit.com/repairability/legacy-smartphone-score...

Re: The Story of Samsung's failed deal with iFixit, as told by iFixit's CEO

#35

At least the samsung phone I bought scores pretty well on repairability in this review https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_xcover6_pro_scores_hig... Although I'd love to know what iFixit thinks, esp since I'm hoping to hang on to it for a few more years at least. Was hoping to find a general database of phones, but it looks like they don't do a ton of reviews. Only 21 smartphones listed here, including both apple a…

Click the View Legacy Scores link. They have several older Samsungs (probably 20-25), dating back to the Samsung S 4G in 2011. https://www.ifixit.com/repairability/legacy-smartphone-score...

Well, this phone was released late 2022 so I'd be surprised to find it in a legacy list already. And indeed there was nothing in the legacy list more recent than 2020.

I bought it the instant it was released so I've gotten 2 years out of it so far with just a few scratches from constantly forgetting and putting it with my keys in my pocket. I have a 2nd battery for quick swapping, but that also helps with battery longevity. I protected the USB port with one of those magnetic connectors so hopefully that will last a while too.

Re: The Story of Samsung's failed deal with iFixit, as told by iFixit's CEO

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In my opinion, if you are going position yourself as a neutral arbiter of device repairability, it does not pass the smell test to enter into for-profit business relationships with the companies manufacturing the devices you rate. Providing consumers with information on where to find reputable companies selling repair parts would be a much more palatable alternative to selling them yourself. > “I don’t know why Samsu…

I want my advocates to have skin in the game, I assume "neutral" just means "undisclosed private agenda". Put your money on the table!

Re: The Story of Samsung's failed deal with iFixit, as told by iFixit's CEO

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post #15

In my opinion, if you are going position yourself as a neutral arbiter of device repairability, it does not pass the smell test to enter into for-profit business relationships with the companies manufacturing the devices you rate. Providing consumers with information on where to find reputable companies selling repair parts would be a much more palatable alternative to selling them yourself. > “I don’t know why Samsu…

Agreed that for-profit relationships are inappropriate, and I also think iFixit’s business selling repair tools and parts is inappropriate. The whole thing comes across as self-promotion for their tools/parts business. Add in their dabbling in lobbying for regulations to force manufacturers to make devices that you can buy ifixit (and other) kits for… and it starts to feel as disingenuous as Epic’s “pro-consumer” int…

> I also think iFixit’s business selling repair tools and parts is inappropriate.

Good grief, I hope you phrased that poorly and don't actually mean what you seem to mean.

Re: The Story of Samsung's failed deal with iFixit, as told by iFixit's CEO

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would people boycott a company with a strong market position that is operating within the bounds of what it can get away with? This reads like suggesting people should boycott their favorite restaurants because reasons.

Because what they get away with is abusive and shows no regard for consumers. Your comment reads like you ignored all of the context of my comment. It's like if your favorite restaurant served really good burgers for $1000, but if the pickles and lettuce fell out and you tried to put them back in, the waiter would come over and slap the burger out of your hand and make you spend another $1000 to get a whole new burge…

To be fair, you do have the option of buying a replacement lettuce+sauce kit for $800 coupled with pickles for $300.

Re: The Story of Samsung's failed deal with iFixit, as told by iFixit's CEO

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In my opinion, if you are going position yourself as a neutral arbiter of device repairability, it does not pass the smell test to enter into for-profit business relationships with the companies manufacturing the devices you rate. Providing consumers with information on where to find reputable companies selling repair parts would be a much more palatable alternative to selling them yourself. > “I don’t know why Samsu…

wtf, for-profit business absolutely has the potential for proper incentive alignment to achieve a goal.

Re: The Story of Samsung's failed deal with iFixit, as told by iFixit's CEO

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post #8

I really liked the plans Samsung employees had to give old phones a new life. I have a box of mostly working phones from different companies and I often wish there was an easy way to use them for different automation tasks around the house. Anyway, I'm not surprised it didn't work. Engineers see possibilities while lawyers only think about how something goes very wrong and the company ends up in court.

> while lawyers only think about how something goes very wrong and the company ends up in court.

To be fair to the lawyers -- that's primarily what companies hire them to do.

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