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Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by 082349872349872 »

CapstanRoller wrote: post #490
vinnyvichy wrote: post #484

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Please reconsider.. gvicino has important points regarding the fine structure of collaboration regulation.. he says it's a "belief", which means it could still be open to discussion! (Imagine, OTOH, if he started with "reason tells me.." :)

Anarchism isn't a belief, but rather a political-philosophical framework with some very specifically-defined foundational aspects. Imagine discussing math and programming with someone who insists that pi=3 and GOTO is the best control flow mechanism.

pedantry:

a) A friend made their pile developing Atari 2600 cartridges. In those days, doing a pythagorean distance calculation would've been way too expensive (especially as they had to work in between scan lines), so in their programs hit regions were octagonal, which is not pi=3, but not far off from pi=6.

b) As someone who generates object code, GOTO is the best control flow mechanism in that domain. [see also "Lambda: the ultimate GOTO" (1977) https://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/5753 ]

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by 082349872349872 »

vinnyvichy wrote: post #488
082349872349872 wrote: post #487

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> or if my glasses were to break was that a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_at_Last reference? I think your reference to time as a limiting input may be very close to the objection I'm groping towards in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39844527 , https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34160852 , and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33952298 ?

Thank you! Keep them objections coming, especially if they have a geometric or siliceous slant. Helps me to focus :) On second thought, these are more than enough lol Just a quick and dirty counter-objection-- to satisfy a Grothendieck model as well as yourselves, perhaps in the decentralized future, your glasses get fixed purely as a side effect of research on silica? So,really, the problem could be, as you implied,…

Not sure I understand the ratchets, so continuing with the theme of broken glasses:

Not so long ago (200 yr? 300 yr?) almost all people spent a significant fraction (2/3+?) of their time just keeping themselves fed. We've automated enough of that that even with distribution, etc. the time budget for keeping oneself fed is now actually dominated by eating (~1/7) and not by production (~1/20?).

So, 200 or 300 years in the future, will we have done something similar to other physiological needs? other safety needs? (note here that many aspects of keeping oneself fed in prior centuries involved long-lead time skills that are no longer necessary because we produce and distribute food in an entirely different manner)

Upon reflection, the broken glasses scenario is not so dire: distribution of new lenses (produced in bulk) according to Rx is low-enough skill that one might imagine easily finding volunteers who schlep packages for the variety of social contact it affords. The toothache would be more difficult, because there treatment (currently) requires specialised knowledge. (and fixing the lens-making machine might be easy enough if one takes the "DEC repairman" attitude of parts are cheap, time and knowledge is expensive, so just swap old parts for new until it passes the self-test again?)

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by vinnyvichy »

082349872349872 wrote: post #492
vinnyvichy wrote: post #488

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you! Keep them objections coming, especially if they have a geometric or siliceous slant. Helps me to focus :) On second thought, these are more than enough lol Just a quick and dirty counter-objection-- to satisfy a Grothendieck model as well as yourselves, perhaps in the decentralized future, your glasses get fixed purely as a side effect of research on silica? So,really, the problem could be, as you implied,…

Not sure I understand the ratchets, so continuing with the theme of broken glasses: Not so long ago (200 yr? 300 yr?) almost all people spent a significant fraction (2/3+?) of their time just keeping themselves fed. We've automated enough of that that even with distribution, etc. the time budget for keeping oneself fed is now actually dominated by eating (~1/7) and not by production (~1/20?). So, 200 or 300 years in…

Not sure if good faith is good enough to get me rate-undelimited, but here goes (:

[e.g. Maxwell's] Ratchets are part of the firmware debug, ideally a debug should be irreversible, yes?

Sorry about the TUFs, it was a lagniappe for gvicino (--assuming you've already seen my previous rant on it.) some (most?) have the form of a reverse rachet: discontinuity+monotonic. I surmise that it would be a good entity with which to model complexodynamic (economic) agents ("peers") trying to debug (cooperate with) one another.

(Each assuming an epsilon of bad faith in the other peers?)

For glasses, unbreakable or, in 30 years time, self-healing teutonic glasses.

EDIT: main problem with today's deployment finance ("VC"): it monotonically moves complexity/brittleness (eg cloud is arguably simpler than locally-served wares as a business model, but not as a technology) -- but not S-Sophistication.

The lust for funding software comes from the seduction of centralized simplification. The business of deploying atoms has no moat besides the violent one.

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by pmarreck »

kragen wrote: post #99
pmarreck wrote: post #87

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NixOS can. Because literally every piece of software in the Nix repo includes all dependencies (including things like build dependencies, not just runtime dependencies) that existed at the time it was built, all the way down to the metal basically

well, all the way down to the kernel, not the metal

fair, but you can pick your kernel and define your kernel extensions I believe, so there's that

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by pmarreck »

kragen wrote: post #414
kragen wrote: post #95

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well, i live in argentina, see, so i've had the opportunity to live under an anti-capitalist government. if you've only lived in a society where capitalists have all the power then it would be unsurprising if the powerless anti-capitalists haven't harmed you

somehow i missed that you said 'not at all surprised', oops

ha, yeah.

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by azthecx »

hosh wrote: post #156
azthecx wrote: post #120

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What do you mean permatech?

I meant to say "permacomputing": https://permacomputing.net/ http://collapseos.org/why.html https://100r.co/site/weathering_software_winter.html

Interesting concepts, thanks!

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Post by eru »

USiBqidmOOkAqRb wrote: post #331
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #285

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this could honestly even be a gif if you just showed the app without the desktop background

GIFs are warts. There's no way to stop them, so they endlessly demand your attention.

Depends on your browser, I guess?

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by mtrower »

devjab wrote: post #251
buyreddit wrote: post #166

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Makes sense. Tangentially, people always mention of spending time on the toilet, but I never could relate as its a max 2-3 minute activity for me, usually less. Only have enough time to read some Reddit posts. Maybe, as I get older, this will change. Edit: I am vegetarian, probably has something to do with it.

Gotta give the hemorrhoid doctors some work. Ideally you should finish your business rather fast, but I think a lot of people simply find a nice break on the toilet. Obviously food has an impact but if any type of *vore has long shits it’s probably because they aren’t getting enough fibre, another boon for the hemorrhoid doctors! The reason I know a shit should take 30 seconds is because there is this Danish doctor w…

Have a go at it in the wilderness and you’ll realize really rather quickly how disconnected modern … durations have become.

But yeah, for some it’s definitely an escape. Particularly at work.

Re: Hundred Rabbits is a small collective exploring the failability of modern tech

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Post by j3s »

blainelewis1 wrote: post #468
j3s wrote: post #64

Rek drew the pufferfish on my website & i love it to death https://j3s.sh

I also really enjoyed your poems :) I aspire to have an interesting website like yours. I came back to read them again and your website was down though :(

thank you!

> I aspire to have an interesting website like yours

let me know if you need help / inspiration!

> I came back to read them again and your website was down though

sorry about that, i was moving & my server came with me :)

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