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Re: Medieval

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Post by kstrauser »

uncivilized wrote: post #271
kstrauser wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re not totally wrong, just mostly. I use Apple stuff. I bought an EP-133 at launch. That part was true. I also spent thousands of hours with a MIDI setup on my Amiga when I was in high school, teaching myself how to program the little FM synth my parents bought me for Christmas, and learning the theory of what makes a drum pattern sound good. I don’t have thousands of hours available anymore. I still want to dabb…

Your comparison of TE to BMW is apt. As is OP’s comparison to Apple. For those of us who have raced cars on a track, we see the BMW E36 M3 (90s) as the last proper race worthy vehicle. People who drive BMWs now just want a “nice car to drive” and spirited drivers don’t want anything to do with them. Likewise, people who use TE instruments want to feel like they are making music, even though they are not using the har…

I agree with you that BMW and TE aren’t the gear that hardcore professionals would reach for, but enthusiasts who enjoy those respective activities can get a lot of enjoyment out of.

Both make stuff for people who enjoy nice things, no pretention required.

Re: Medieval

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Post by stingrae »

eweise wrote: post #265
theahura wrote: post #252

O man I love teenage engineering. I built a visual archive of their work just a few days ago -- https://play.soot.com/teenageengineering

Most of the stuff seems way overpriced https://teenage.engineering/products/field-desk Looks like a $100 desk for $1,600

This is the cost of doing business when you have to pay for engineering (and tooling + certification) on niche products. Nothing they do is really designed for mass market.

Re: Medieval

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Post by bookofjoe »

sssilver wrote: post #193
meiuqer wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good shout, I was thinking of The color of Pomegranates: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Color_of_Pomegranates https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPtxS1c-fGA

The last thing I was expecting during my daily Hacker News read was bumping into a Parajanov reference. Incredible.

It's the internet equivalent of Forrest Gump's box of chocolates.

Re: Medieval

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Post by tayistay »

rigonkulous wrote: post #103
stitched2gethr wrote: post #31

I'm a fan of Teenage Engineering. I think they make some really cool products but they have a few that really makes me wonder, who is this for?

I am not a fan of Teenage Engineering (Disclaimer: I make audio products too). The reason is, they set a standard for useless gimmicks which are far, far too expensive, designed to appeal to style over substance. The OP1 is one of the most over-rated 'instruments' out there. It has a fancy, expensive OLED, a fancy, expensive casing, and useless gimmicks. The OLED never really shows you anything useful to the act of m…

> The OLED never really shows you anything useful to the act of music-making.

Thou art prone to hyperbole! Said instrument of synthesis ("Operator-1") has a step sequencer, mixer, ADSR envelopes, recorder, and other useful indications for the bard. One ponders how thou hast not consulted the scrolls [1].

[1] https://teenage.engineering/_img/54b7f9bf8681400300255cab_or...

Re: Medieval

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Post by strangecasts »

cschneid wrote: post #272

This made me think of a question I've had for a bit now. What is the cheapest way to get a grid of buttons that wires into a laptop (mac if it matters) to play sound effects? My wife is a teacher and would really enjoy hitting a button and getting some dumb sound effect to play. But it's just a lark, so it's not worth too much $ invested. I had assumed a cheap drum pad + midi, but not 100% sure that makes sense.

Not necessarily the cheapest possible options, but cheap enough and fairly quick to get going:

If you want a MIDI pad controller, the Korg nanoPAD 2 [1] is $65 new (and often pops up used) and powered entirely off USB. You can then set up Sitala [2] to listen for notes from the pad and drag-and-drop samples onto each note.

If you want keyboard-style keys, the Pimoroni Keybow kit [2] is $57 - there is a bit of assembly, but no soldering.

[1] https://www.korg.com/us/products/computergear/nanopad2/

[2] https://decomposer.de/sitala/

[2] https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/keybow-2040

Re: Medieval

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Post by hiatus »

fnfjfk wrote: post #251
echelon wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had no idea the B&H folks were this cool. I've ordered mundane stuff like C-stands and apple boxes from them. They looked like a dated 2000's era storefront.

So. Here’s the thing about B&H: https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/ofccp/ofccp20170814

That's 7 years old at this point.

Re: Medieval

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Post by broguinn »

discardedrefuse wrote: post #15

This seems to be the same as the EP-133 K.O. II with a difference: - 128MB memory including 96MB ROM sounds and 32MB user sample memory on the Medieval vs - 64 MB memory, or 999 sample slots on the K.O. II.

I ordered the KO-II for a friend, after reading about it on Hacker News. I love Teenage Engineering's playfulness and creativity, but was disappointed when the KO-II had quality issues with its input nob, making it unusable.

They were quick to issue a refund, but I would have loved to see them fix the underlying issue and offer us another unit. I'd have the same concerns about this model, since it looks like it uses the same base hardware.

Re: Medieval

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Post by JansjoFromIkea »

strangecasts wrote: post #286
cschneid wrote: post #272

This made me think of a question I've had for a bit now. What is the cheapest way to get a grid of buttons that wires into a laptop (mac if it matters) to play sound effects? My wife is a teacher and would really enjoy hitting a button and getting some dumb sound effect to play. But it's just a lark, so it's not worth too much $ invested. I had assumed a cheap drum pad + midi, but not 100% sure that makes sense.

Not necessarily the cheapest possible options, but cheap enough and fairly quick to get going: If you want a MIDI pad controller, the Korg nanoPAD 2 [1] is $65 new (and often pops up used) and powered entirely off USB. You can then set up Sitala [2] to listen for notes from the pad and drag-and-drop samples onto each note. If you want keyboard-style keys, the Pimoroni Keybow kit [2] is $57 - there is a bit of assembl…

I've seen nanopads (1 and 2) go for $20 fairly often; the kind of thing that's so cheap I'm always tempted to get it with minimal actual use cases for it.

Re: Medieval

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Post by TheRealPomax »

addandsubtract wrote: post #215
thom wrote: post #190

I've managed to convince myself over the years I wouldn't actually use any of Teenage Engineering's stuff, however I might lust after it. But 200 hours of Manor Lords and a Lankum gig later, this was the fastest £249 I've ever spent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9mRQK9kCHA

Meanwhile, it costs €350 in Euroland.

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