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Re: Medieval

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Post by Bluestein »

code_biologist wrote: post #209
yungporko wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However, I do think there is a case to be made for falling into the trap of being more interested in the gear than the thing you're meant to do with the gear. that is literally the intention behind all modern music hardware (eurorack especially) i think. i've been a producer for nearly 20 years and i've still never seen anybody make genuinely good music with any of these things. not even once. these 30-40 year old…

I think you're largely right but man there's some gold in the jams. Here's a 1 minute synth jam video posted to youtube 17 years ago, it still blows me away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Kiw4aoex4 Of course he's brilliantly talented and became Dorian Concept, to your point.

In today's digital world, fraught with impermanence - to find things going that far back is fascinating.-

PS. Much more so when it "chronicles" the development of talent, such as is the case here.-

Re: Medieval

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Post by fredoliveira »

darepublic wrote: post #89
b1n wrote: post #28

Nice 'Holy Mountain' vibes in the promo video. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Mountain_(1973_film) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdXGhsAynGI

also the wicker man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBS5qeqHDGI

Or Midsommar, which is quite similar.

Re: Medieval

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Post by jeegsy »

severak_cz wrote: post #178

I found it really funny. It's obviously probably useless for actual medieval music[0] but I think it can find it's users in bardcore or dungeon synth circles. You can definitely recreate this just by collecting appropriate VSTs and sample libraries, even probably by just loading some "medieval samples" to some groovebox. But if I got this second hand on cheap price I would definitely make some fun with it even if it…

Lets just take a moment to give thanks for the technology that has made "dungeon synth" possible.

Re: Medieval

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Post by bmitc »

pgt wrote: post #169
lewisflude wrote: post #132

I know many musicians who love using Teenage Engineerings products for making music, performing live etc. However, I do think there is a case to be made for falling into the trap of being more interested in the gear than the thing you're meant to do with the gear. At the very least, Teenage Engineering hardware is generally very well designed, high quality and built to last. At least this product has some creative sp…

“Regular people use their speakers to listen to your music. Audiophiles use your music to listen to their speakers.” — Alan Parsons

People in general are pretty good at finding ways to feel superior to someone else, and that includes both audiophiles and musicians in this case.

Re: Medieval

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Post by jimnotgym »

maccard wrote: post #196
whstl wrote: post #177

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I agree 100%. Getting a Gibson was also a game changer for me. Today there is cheaper stuff that is also good quality (but you gotta dig), but back in the day you needed the kind of gear used by pro musicians to actually go the extra mile. And it's a good observation about bespoke guitars: I feel like the problem is people trying to go beyond that, with the illusion that "even more expensive" will be even better. The…

> Today there is cheaper stuff that is also good quality (but you gotta dig) I think I disagree here - You don't have to dig for cheap and quality anymore. An entry level squier from the last 15 years is sufficient quality for a beginner IMO, and one step up (classic vibe) is firmly into the "instrument for life" territory these days. You only need to upgrade for preference/feel. I have the luxury of regularly gettin…

To me the biggest change has been to amplifiers. Mid range practice amps now sound passible. Digital modelling is pretty good, and helps keep the volume down. That wasn't true before, most practice amps made guitars sound horrible. I always recommend people spend more on the amp than the guitar. I have a motley collection of cheap guitars and they all sound preety good into my Fender Twin... my Classic Vibe strat (as another commenter said) sounds perfect, as does my homemade Tele with homemade pickups.

Re: Medieval

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Post by danpalmer »

iamsaitam wrote: post #168
danpalmer wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me too, which is why the whole Rabbit R1 debacle was so surprising, not just that they did the design for it, but that some of their leadership was so deeply involved in it.

It's not surprising when you think that design is all that matters to TE. Functionality is a byproduct not the end goal.

I think that's a little unfair as an assessment of their design. Good design is generally considered to include functionality, and from what I've seen of their products they do generally have good functionality. Sometimes that might be a little at the cost of the visual design (the OP-1 doesn't look like the most accessible tool), but on the whole I think they make products that are good overall.

Re: Medieval

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Post by csmpltn »

cnity wrote: post #125
csmpltn wrote: post #124

This is unnecessary consumerism...

There's sort of two ways to look at the Teenage Engineering products. The first is as a tool to produce music, and the second is as a kind of interactive sculpture. The design and production of these things is so good they are almost like art themselves. Are they useful? Not really, you could achieve the same thing with a VST — hardware isn't required for this — but to think in this way is to miss the point. Are scul…

This is a digital hardware synth that makes sword-clinking sounds. It goes for 300 USD.

This is maybe half a step above a fart cushion. There’s no need to buy this whatsoever…

Re: Medieval

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Post by winstonrc »

Does anyone have recommendations for a more practical, entry-level device for making small songs? I’m making a survival-horror game for the Playdate and need some music that fits the vibe.

The reason I’ve been eyeing hardware is because I spend all my time writing code and drawing pixel art, so it would be nice to have something away from the computer to work with.

Re: Medieval

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Post by donaldihunter »

pgt wrote: post #169
lewisflude wrote: post #132

I know many musicians who love using Teenage Engineerings products for making music, performing live etc. However, I do think there is a case to be made for falling into the trap of being more interested in the gear than the thing you're meant to do with the gear. At the very least, Teenage Engineering hardware is generally very well designed, high quality and built to last. At least this product has some creative sp…

“Regular people use their speakers to listen to your music. Audiophiles use your music to listen to their speakers.” — Alan Parsons

I don't think that was said by Alan Parsons. It was by a slashdotter in response to an Alan Parsons interview:

https://entertainment.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2663265&c...

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