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Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

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Re: Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

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Post by Hackbraten »

usui wrote: post #99
Hackbraten wrote: post #97

My personal moment where Microsoft briefly showed me its true form: Microsoft's Python language server extension for VS Code (Pylance) has been crashing on launch on one of my machines for twelve months or so. One day, I got fed up with it and opened the extension in a JS debugger to investigate. Immediately after opening it, the extension fully deliberately DoSed [0] the CPU core with a full-on ReDoS [1] attack, lea…

Your first reaction is to attribute this specific situation to intentional malice?

Have you looked at the regular expression in the linked screenshot?

How is it not intentional?

Re: Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

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Post by fransje26 »

usui wrote: post #99
Hackbraten wrote: post #97

My personal moment where Microsoft briefly showed me its true form: Microsoft's Python language server extension for VS Code (Pylance) has been crashing on launch on one of my machines for twelve months or so. One day, I got fed up with it and opened the extension in a JS debugger to investigate. Immediately after opening it, the extension fully deliberately DoSed [0] the CPU core with a full-on ReDoS [1] attack, lea…

Your first reaction is to attribute this specific situation to intentional malice?

Well, it is Microsoft we are talking about, with quite a track record on the topic..

Re: Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

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Post by eviks »

User23 wrote: post #84
eviks wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Git is not well suited since it lacks one of the most important part of collaboration - communication

Git was designed to be used with email, which adequately solved for communication and decentralization (at the time at least).

it was just as inadequate at the time as it is now

Re: Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

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Post by eviks »

sqeaky wrote: post #87
User23 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Git was designed to be used with email, which adequately solved for communication and decentralization (at the time at least).

And even if it doesn't wouldn't to Dedicated communication tool solve communication better than a dedicated revision control system? What happened to using multiple applications each best suited for their domain?

Life happend and led to the concentrated "best suited github.com app for the domain" which spawns sister articles to the one posted here

Re: Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

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Post by masfoobar »

I have doubt for any of the big tech companies - not just microsoft.

Microsoft are profit driven and if any opportunity comes where they can trap you, they will. Same with Amazon. Same with Google. Etc.

I do not hate them... I accept the world we live in where they will dominate and control whatever they can. I just do my best to limit using their tools.

I work for companies using google or microsoft. At home, I keep to free software as much as I can.

Re: Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

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Post by [deleted] »

xet7 wrote: post #72

Microsoft is able to keep GitHub and npmjs.com online, despite all the DDoS attacks. It requires a huge amount of servers, bandwidth etc, to have all the repos, downloads, etc online. Having those online makes coding FOSS possible. There are some FOSS alternatives to GitHub, but they have had more problems staying online.

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Re: Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

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Post by marcodiego »

audidude wrote: post #32
marcodiego wrote: post #18

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Oh! So you are Christian Hergert, right? I've been completely deaf to GNOME dev tools for a few years. What are the plans (if is there any) for a reasonably good RAD or ui builder tool (besides cambalache)? Is there any hope for blueprint + workbench turning into something to fill this gap? Was there any progress or plan on the "designable" interface for GTK? For the record, I wrote this comment some time ago: https:…

I am. It's been on my radar for a long time and I have prototypes for one that are bitrotting on gitlab. There are three major design pieces of it. First, It has an executable that runs in your development container (environment/etc) which means you can load libraries/typelibs/girs/etc just like the app would without crashing the IDE (or Glade in the old days). Second, everything is an AST node so doing fun manipulat…

> I have prototypes for one that are bitrotting on gitlab.

If you are talking about "drafting" I even had a few contributions in 2021. Would love to see it evolve.

Re: Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

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Post by unsignedint »

pjmlp wrote: post #92
ho_schi wrote: post #19

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https://web.archive.org/web/20230315200925/http://antitrust.... What did changed since Microsoft used ACPI as tool against Linux? Enforced Auto-Updates, Ads, Cloud Account enforcement, Blocking Firefox partially in Teams [1], Setting Teams as Browser (Edge?), WSL (intent is not compatibility, it is to prevent migrations to Linux), Azure is a giant security problem and finally the deal with Qualcomm (hinder Linux on A…

Except they changed their mind on their CoPilot+ devices, as it is a required piece. WSL is the proof how Desktop Linux isn't happening, while everyone keeps pushing for their snowflake distribution. They aren't alone, Google on Chromebooks, Android, and Apple with Virtualization Framework, are all variants of what WSL achieves. None of them has bothered to actually support the Year of Desktop Linux.

Regarding WSL, I tried very hard to use Linux exclusively on my desktop for about five years. While native Linux is excellent for servers, the desktop experience still has many shortcomings and unpredictabilities. It often feels like something breaks with every new release, affecting everything from power management to input systems. I grew tired of feeling like I was rolling the dice every time I performed an upgrade. Eventually, I concluded that using Linux on the desktop (at least on a large scale) is just a pipe dream. Although Windows has its problems, WSL provides a Linux implementation with the least friction, in my experience.

Re: Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

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Post by iLemming »

bb88 wrote: post #8

Remember the quote from Steve Ballmer? "Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers!" Apple is winning, somehow.

> Apple is winning, somehow.

How is it winning? Apple employees generally need approval to even contribute to any open-source projects that are not their own products.

Apple is only "winning" by selling Macs to devs, but about 90% of devs using Macs don't even write software to run natively on Macs and iOS devices.

Re: Can we trust Microsoft with Open Source? (2021)

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Post by iLemming »

unsignedint wrote: post #108
pjmlp wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except they changed their mind on their CoPilot+ devices, as it is a required piece. WSL is the proof how Desktop Linux isn't happening, while everyone keeps pushing for their snowflake distribution. They aren't alone, Google on Chromebooks, Android, and Apple with Virtualization Framework, are all variants of what WSL achieves. None of them has bothered to actually support the Year of Desktop Linux.

Regarding WSL, I tried very hard to use Linux exclusively on my desktop for about five years. While native Linux is excellent for servers, the desktop experience still has many shortcomings and unpredictabilities. It often feels like something breaks with every new release, affecting everything from power management to input systems. I grew tired of feeling like I was rolling the dice every time I performed an upgrad…

I have 100% the opposite experience. I was a Windows user for many years. After heavily using Linux for several months, I cannot work in Windows anymore; it just doesn't make sense to me. I feel like I can never predict what the system will do next. I would open a folder with a bunch of subfolders, and it would show me a progress bar. For almost half a minute. "Why? What the fuck are you trying to do, Windows? Why can't you just simply list the files? I just need to see them, nothing else. How come that literally not a single other file-explorer software does any shit of that sort? And why does it happen every single damn time when I open the same fucking folder?"

Search doesn't freaking work anymore. I can't even find an app that I just installed seconds ago - the search instead would take me to the web, opening Edge. Which is another damn pestilence alongside OneDrive Cloud. "No, Microsoft. I don't care about your damn browser, let me use whatever I want to use... And no, I don't care about your cloud." There's now built-in telemetry everywhere, and they're making it real hard to use the thing on your own computer without logging into an MS account.

I like my Linux. It makes me feel liberated from bullshit. Sure, it can feel brittle, but it doesn't feel "broken all the time". Windows feels like it's fundamentally broken beyond repair.

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