Interesting. Are we finally reaching the point where ssd are bigger than hdd ? How many years before price/GB gets better too ?
I think there have been large ssds in DC it’s just cost.
WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD
61–70 of 82 posts
Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD
#62Interesting. Are we finally reaching the point where ssd are bigger than hdd ? How many years before price/GB gets better too ?
There have already been 32.72TB ssds for a while now, which is larger than all HDDs expect the upcoming 32TB SMR WD drive.
Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD
#63I really want a denser SSD to store my photo collection. My current small form factor PC has two NVME PCIe slots and no room for SATA drives. I have two 4 TB SSDs in there right now and it seems that consumer SSDs basically cap out at 4 TB. I would really love to get about 16 TB in my computer.
Kinda like saying you wish your Lamborghini had a big truck box.
Not really. SSDs are silent, and have greater storage density. Both very attractive attributes for a home NAS. Even if the SSDs only do 250MB/s, four of them will saturate a 10GbE link.
Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good quality has a baseline level of speed which is pretty fast. There's not much you can cut at that point. But cheap SSDs got down to 2x the price of hard drives last year. Even after prices stabilized, they're at 3x. Flash catching up relatively soon seems likely. Flash matching the current price of hard drives seems even more likely.
I think that is too optimistic. The cost / capacity of NAND, even by Western Digital roadmap wouldn't have come down to current HDD price by 2027 / 2028. And that is assuming HDD price dont fall.
It seems that HDD density has stopped improving so fast and you're going to run into a wall on price reduction because due to the extra material and shipping cost involved in producing an HDD vs. a tiny m.2 SSD.
Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD
#65I really want a denser SSD to store my photo collection. My current small form factor PC has two NVME PCIe slots and no room for SATA drives. I have two 4 TB SSDs in there right now and it seems that consumer SSDs basically cap out at 4 TB. I would really love to get about 16 TB in my computer.
I'd love to find a M2-only NAS in a very low profile form factor. I live in a small apartment and prefer small electronics that can hide in a cabinet, but it seems like all of the NAS enclosures that I've ever seen recommended are fucking huge.
Even if it was 5 drive 2.5" to hold SATA SSDs would be great for me. As networked mass storage I don't always need NVME speeds.
Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD
#66I really want a denser SSD to store my photo collection. My current small form factor PC has two NVME PCIe slots and no room for SATA drives. I have two 4 TB SSDs in there right now and it seems that consumer SSDs basically cap out at 4 TB. I would really love to get about 16 TB in my computer.
I'd love to find a M2-only NAS in a very low profile form factor. I live in a small apartment and prefer small electronics that can hide in a cabinet, but it seems like all of the NAS enclosures that I've ever seen recommended are fucking huge.
There is good reason for size of such NAS devices. HDDs are just better to maintain your not corrupted data when not connected, as NANDs needs to be refreshed from time to time. The best you could do is to use SSD as a fast cache.
Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD
#67how big is the market of people who have money to burn? or is it that some people mistakenly believe that bigger devices are more cost-effective? this part of the release is interesting: https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library...
This is also useful for power-constrained systems - 128T x 35W is less power than 2 x 64T x 35W which gives a larger power budget for whatever h100-type device you have connected to these drives
Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd love to find a M2-only NAS in a very low profile form factor. I live in a small apartment and prefer small electronics that can hide in a cabinet, but it seems like all of the NAS enclosures that I've ever seen recommended are fucking huge.
I have the Flashstor 12 Pro. As the name suggests it's 12 m.2 nvme bays and it's pretty darn small considering. Pros: - It does what it says on the tin and I have 12 nvme drives in a ZFS pool - It has 10G ethernet built in. - It's pretty small, especially compared to most HDD focused NAS systems. - It's just an x86 PC and you can blast the factory OS away to install your OS of choice without issue. Cons: - Each drive…
> - No PCIe expansion slots for anything but m.2 2280 drives.
You can get m.2 adapters: https://www.delock.com/produkt/64219/dokumente.html?d=467
Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree. The price difference between SSD storage and HDD per TB is still a multiple (seems to be currently about 5x). That is better than the 10x it was a few years ago; but I don't expect them to be equivalent any time soon.
What numbers are you looking at for 5x? Making sure I'm looking at new hard drives, I see prices around $15/TB at the cheap end. There are a few name-brand SSDs at $45/TB, many more at $50/TB. They're not high end but even the low end is fast these days.
Just like SSDs are $50 at the cheap end; I have seen HDD at $10 on the cheap end.
Re: WD announces enterprise 128TB SSD
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd love to find a M2-only NAS in a very low profile form factor. I live in a small apartment and prefer small electronics that can hide in a cabinet, but it seems like all of the NAS enclosures that I've ever seen recommended are fucking huge.
There ie the rockchip CM3588 NAS Kit but it is a non mainstream CPU which cost between 200-300€: https://wiki.friendlyelec.com/wiki/index.php/CM3588_NAS_Kit there is also the asustor nas: https://www.asustor.com/de/product?p_id=80 If you just need a single nvme SSD you could also buy a banana pi 3 Router: https://wiki.banana-pi.org/Banana_Pi_BPI-R3 Edit: forgot links and product
I've heard the Flashtor 12 is great, and can take lots of M.2s, but they end up with relatively few channels so data transmission rates aren't awesome. It can be fine as most users will be connecting over the network anyway which will be the bottleneck.